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    Re: Should Congress Fund Disaster Aid for Northeast

    Quote Originally Posted by Uzidoesit View Post
    Folks in NJ don't squawk when we fork over money to help everyone else with their tragedies and disasters. Why is SS Sandy different?
    The issue isn't helping New jersey--it is whether or not we should be helping anyone and if so in what ways.

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    Re: Should Congress Fund Disaster Aid for Northeast

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    The issue isn't helping New jersey--it is whether or not we should be helping anyone and if so in what ways.
    Why is this an issue here and now; after a disaster of epic proportions in the NE?

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    Re: Should Congress Fund Disaster Aid for Northeast

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Im referring to H.R. 1 which, which in addition to spending 650 billion on defense, adds another 60 billion in specific funding related to natural disasters. My answer is no. First off, the federal govt does not have the power to spend money on flood insurance, transportation other than post roads, housing, flooding or small business loans. Second, it is individuals responsibility first to avoid risk from nature, and if deciding to take that risk, to cover their losses when damages occur (with local govt or charity if they choose). Third, the country is already borrowing a trillion dollars a year. If people want it to spend money on this, they should raise the revenue seperately through a special tax or cut spending to cover the additional spending. Fourth, this should not be bundled with the defense appropriations. It is not germane and it puts pressure on representatives to play political games.

    To put it another way, if the govt succeeds in raising taxes on the rich, that additional revenue will already be spent by this one bill.
    I have no problem with my tax dollars being used to help people who's lives have been destroyed, especially those who don't have the capacity to put their lives back together again. Nothing is served by letting people or cities that have suffered a natural disaster deal with it on their own. For example what benefit would the United States had if we left millions of people and our biggest economic hub, New York City, without any kind of aid or federal assistance? None at all.

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    Re: Should Congress Fund Disaster Aid for Northeast

    Quote Originally Posted by Uzidoesit View Post
    Why is this an issue here and now; after a disaster of epic proportions in the NE?
    Maybe you are just now aware of it. People have been blasting flood insurance every time a hurricane destroys an ocean front mansion wherever and whenever that happens.

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    Re: Should Congress Fund Disaster Aid for Northeast

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    Maybe you are just now aware of it. People have been blasting flood insurance every time a hurricane destroys an ocean front mansion wherever and whenever that happens.
    People seemed okay about fixing up things after Katrina. I didn't hear any complaints around my way.

    It's not true that people in the NE are all rich folks with mansions. Rich folks with mansions have lots of insurance to pay for damages; it's the regular folks, and folks like those in Staten Island, firefighters and policemen and such who need more help.

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    Re: Should Congress Fund Disaster Aid for Northeast

    Quote Originally Posted by Uzidoesit View Post
    People seemed okay about fixing up things after Katrina. I didn't hear any complaints around my way.

    It's not true that people in the NE are all rich folks with mansions. Rich folks with mansions have lots of insurance to pay for damages; it's the regular folks, and folks like those in Staten Island, firefighters and policemen and such who need more help.
    I was referring to when hurricanes hit the Carolina coast with the mansions comment.

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    Re: Should Congress Fund Disaster Aid for Northeast

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    I was referring to when hurricanes hit the Carolina coast with the mansions comment.
    Did they or didn't they have flood insurance? I don't know.

    What I do know is that in NJ flood insurance will have gone up so much that some folks have to walk away from their properties.

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    Re: Should Congress Fund Disaster Aid for Northeast

    Quote Originally Posted by Uzidoesit View Post
    Did they or didn't they have flood insurance? I don't know.

    What I do know is that in NJ flood insurance will have gone up so much that some folks have to walk away from their properties.
    The feds were at one point the only ones who would insure coastal homes in hurricane country. It has been a debate that has been going on for years. It also comes up when the Mississippi floods and you have people on TV lamenting that this is the third or 4th time their house has washed away or flooded. Whether or not you are required to be insured on a mortgage for floods is whether or not you are in a flood plane.

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    Re: Should Congress Fund Disaster Aid for Northeast

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    The feds were at one point the only ones who would insure coastal homes in hurricane country. It has been a debate that has been going on for years. It also comes up when the Mississippi floods and you have people on TV lamenting that this is the third or 4th time their house has washed away or flooded. Whether or not you are required to be insured on a mortgage for floods is whether or not you are in a flood plane.
    The flood maps in NJ are in the process of being re-drawn and flood insurance will go up around $1,000.00 per month, which many people cannot afford since a lot of properties at the shore are "legacy properties" which have been handed down for generations to people who will now be unable to afford flood insurance, and which will probably be mandatory.

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