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    Re: Should Congress Fund Disaster Aid for Northeast

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    You asked two questions and neither of which deserve an answer.
    So you are purposely ignoring the very reasons that the government has a right, and responsibility to help those that have been in major natural disasters. Gotcha. Why answer a question that would show the truth when you can just dismiss it as "not deserving an answer".
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    Re: Should Congress Fund Disaster Aid for Northeast

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    So you are purposely ignoring the very reasons that the government has a right, and responsibility to help those that have been in major natural disasters. Gotcha. Why answer a question that would show the truth when you can just dismiss it as "not deserving an answer".
    The government does not practice rights nor does the government have a responsibility to help people who have been in a major natural disaster.

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    Re: Should Congress Fund Disaster Aid for Northeast

    Yes. If we can subsidize and bail out the private sector using taxpayer money, we can at least exercise our responsibility to those taxpayers.

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    Re: Should Congress Fund Disaster Aid for Northeast

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    The government does not practice rights nor does the government have a responsibility to help people who have been in a major natural disaster.
    Then answer my question. If you truely believe this then answer my question. What happens when a major natural disaster strikes an area? We'll use Katrina as a base line.
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    Re: Should Congress Fund Disaster Aid for Northeast

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I believe that any disaster relief should come with strings attached such as making structures resistant to natural disasters or not building in areas below sea level.
    Or in flood plains of major US rivers, or tornado ally or prone to drought hit areas and hence wildfire areas or areas that can be hit by hurricanes. Lets not forget most of the Yellowstone caldera....

    So basically most of the red states.. if not the whole US.

    Is that what you want?
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    Re: Should Congress Fund Disaster Aid for Northeast

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Or in flood plains of major US rivers, or tornado ally or prone to drought hit areas and hence wildfire areas or areas that can be hit by hurricanes. Lets not forget most of the Yellowstone caldera....

    So basically most of the red states.. if not the whole US.

    Is that what you want?
    I want people to make good decisions, and then pay for consequences themselves.

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    Re: Should Congress Fund Disaster Aid for Northeast

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    I want people to make good decisions, and then pay for consequences themselves.
    So to make good decisions you are will to let a lot of people die, just so the survivors will "learn a lesson" and not repeat the bad decision. That this has not happened in all of human history is just what... an inconvenience?
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    Re: Should Congress Fund Disaster Aid for Northeast

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Or in flood plains of major US rivers, or tornado ally or prone to drought hit areas and hence wildfire areas or areas that can be hit by hurricanes. Lets not forget most of the Yellowstone caldera....

    So basically most of the red states.. if not the whole US.

    Is that what you want?
    No, he wants what he told you. To make use better building practices, or not build below sea level in high risk areas.

    This isn't that hard.

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    Re: Should Congress Fund Disaster Aid for Northeast

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Im referring to H.R. 1 which, which in addition to spending 650 billion on defense, adds another 60 billion in specific funding related to natural disasters. My answer is no. First off, the federal govt does not have the power to spend money on flood insurance, transportation other than post roads, housing, flooding or small business loans. Second, it is individuals responsibility first to avoid risk from nature, and if deciding to take that risk, to cover their losses when damages occur (with local govt or charity if they choose). Third, the country is already borrowing a trillion dollars a year. If people want it to spend money on this, they should raise the revenue seperately through a special tax or cut spending to cover the additional spending. Fourth, this should not be bundled with the defense appropriations. It is not germane and it puts pressure on representatives to play political games.

    To put it another way, if the govt succeeds in raising taxes on the rich, that additional revenue will already be spent by this one bill.
    You DO know these are loans to people to rebuild and payment to workers in the area to fix any roads and bridges and powerlines, right?

    Let's keep this negative attitude on the Northeast alive when the tornadoes hit Cantor's home state, shall we?
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    Re: Should Congress Fund Disaster Aid for Northeast

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Or in flood plains of major US rivers, or tornado ally or prone to drought hit areas and hence wildfire areas or areas that can be hit by hurricanes. Lets not forget most of the Yellowstone caldera....
    House in fire prone areas can make sure that the brush is cleaned up around them.Houses constantly hit by hurricans and tornadoes can be built to withstand those things, or least where the damage is minimize. Buildings in earthquake prone areas can be built to withstand earthquakes. Areas below sea level should either be filled in or rebuilt somewhere else.

    So basically most of the red states.. if not the whole US.
    Yes. It makes no sense to keep paying people to build the same damn buildings in disaster prone areas.

    Is that what you want?
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