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Abortion

Abortion

  • Available upon request

    Votes: 41 66.1%

  • Legal only for rape or incest

    Votes: 1 1.6%

  • Legal only for safety of mother/child

    Votes: 8 12.9%

  • Legal only for rape, incest, or safety of mother/child

    Votes: 10 16.1%

  • Illegal

    Votes: 2 3.2%
  • Total voters
    62
  • Poll closed .
You don't need any help. You're handling the situation quite well.
 
mpg said:
You don't need any help. You're handling the situation quite well.
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translation: you cant, thats what i thought lol.
 
Rocketman said:
Just like people on life support are attached to machines, both kept alive by outside sources, lets kill them all, I mean that is the liberal way, deciding who lives and who dies
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So you don't see a difference between women and inanimate objects. Gotcha.
 
Nordenkalt444 said:
Do you think it should be legal? For what purpose?
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C) Only for safety of mother and child.

But even in that scenario the child would lose out, as someone's life would have to end, and it wouldn't be mom's.
 
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Abortion is murder and is the most horrible act one human being can perform on another...
 
I'm just going to post this since someone always says its murder and then someone always follows it up by saying its just a legal term. It in fact has more than one definition.

: the crime of unlawfully killing a person especially with malice aforethought
2
a : something very difficult or dangerous <the traffic was murder>
b : something outrageous or blameworthy <getting away with murder>
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I'm not defending the use of it here, but just saying the counter argument is actually incorrect.
 
Henrin said:
I'm just going to post this since someone always says its murder and then someone always follows it up by saying its just a legal term. It in fact has more than one definition.



I'm not defending the use of it here, but just saying the counter argument is actually incorrect.
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im just going to post this changes nothing i ever said :shrug: nothing
 
Henrin said:
I'm not talking to you. ;)
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i would hope not because youd be wrong if you were, just made sure since you posted it immediately after me.
 
Viktyr Gehrig said:
So you don't see a difference between women and inanimate objects. Gotcha.
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Depends on the woman, I don't see a difference in killing a kid before it is born versus killing them anytime afterward.
 
Rocketman said:
Depends on the woman, I don't see a difference in killing a kid before it is born versus killing them anytime afterward.
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Then it's quite obvious there is a very serious issue where you can't differentiate between a person and a non-person.
 
0bserver92 said:
Then it's quite obvious there is a very serious issue where you can't differentiate between a person and a non-person.
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if it has a heartbeat it is a life
 
minnie616 said:
But a pre viable fetus is not yet a person since it cannot survive outside a human womb.
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that is simply definition to fit a pro choice view. If that was truly the case alleged criminals that kill pregnant women would only be charged for 1 homicide instead of 2.
 
Rocketman said:
that is simply definition to fit a pro choice view. If that was truly the case alleged criminals that kill pregnant women would only be charged for 1 homicide instead of 2.
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About 23 states have Fetal Homicide Laws.
Those laws protect the states interest in a potential person.
NO state conciders a legal abortion as a homicide.
 
minnie616 said:
About 23 states have Fetal Homicide Laws.
Those laws protect the states interest in a potential person.
NO state conciders a legal abortion as a homicide.
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And a liberal thinks that is ok, it goes against logic in every way.
 
Rocketman said:
And a liberal thinks that is ok, it goes against logic in every way.
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No, it does NOT go against logic.

In fact the Roe vs.Wade decision that was made by the Surpreme Court in 1973 shows how wise The Surpreme Court was.

They allowed for states to take interest in the "potential person " ( after viability about the last trimester)

of a pregnancy as long as the woman's health/life was not at risk if the pregnancy continuted.

Early abotions were made legal in that decision.
 
I have had six pregnancies.
I have 4 children.
I had two miscarriages.
I was never a mother to those miscarried fetuses.
They were never children/babies/persons.

I had two miscarriages between my 2 ed and 3rd child.
The first miscarriages was early on. I was about 5 to 6 weeks gestation.
During my 4th pregnancy I went into premature labor when I was about 5 months gestation.

My doctor was out of town so when I went into early labor we ended up at the ER.
They took a pregnancy test and told me I was no longer pregnant.
The doctor covering for my doctor did not want to come in that day so they shot me full of med's to try to stop the labor.
They took me to the maternity ward with 4 other woman who had given birth to healthy babies.
When I was transferring from the gurney to the bed the fetus was expelled and I accidentally saw it and how deformed it was.

It was a nightmare.

My doctor told me that the fetus was so deformed that even if I had carried it longer it never would have been viable.

That deformed fetus was never a baby ,
it was never a person, and it never had a chance of becoming a person.
It was just a clump of deformed cells , a miscarriage in the making from the time I conceived.
 
minnie616 said:
No, it does NOT go against logic.

In fact the Roe vs.Wade decision that was made by the Surpreme Court in 1973 shows how wise The Surpreme Court was.

They allowed for states to take interest in the "potential person " ( after viability about the last trimester)

of a pregnancy as long as the woman's health/life was not at risk if the pregnancy continuted.

Early abotions were made legal in that decision.
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And it was a immoral and illogical decision
 
minnie616 said:
I have had six pregnancies.
I have 4 children.
I had two miscarriages.
I was never a mother to those miscarried fetuses.
They were never children/babies/persons.
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Child-
1.
a. A person between birth and puberty.
b. A person who has not attained maturity or the age of legal majority.
2.
a. An unborn infant; a fetus.
b. An infant; a baby.


baby-

a. A very young child; an infant.
b. An unborn child; a fetus.
c. The youngest member of a family or group.
d. A very young animal.
 
nijjhar said:
Hi Brethren,

In abortion, what God has joined together, man puts it asunder.

Our soul, man, hails from our Father God and this joins with his wife flesh in the womb of the mother and they become one person as stated in Matt.19.

So, abortion is a murder of the innocent person and the murderer get away with it. It is not fair in society who are in God but in Mammon, there are no norms and people do whatever they like. Have you come across abortions in a country where Mammon is not worshipped? No.
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I don't believe in God as you describe, so what you say has no meaning to me.
Abortions are more common in countries where it is illegal too.
 
Cilogy said:
If you want a healthy respect for life, we probably shouldn't view having a baby as a consequence.
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We should do a lot more to make it not a consequence, then. Society demonizes women for accidental pregnancies, especially when they're young. We place a substantial amount of legal responsibility on a mother for her children, and having a kid is really expensive, both in terms of time and money. It is a consequence. It can be a life-altering one. No one should have that forced on them.

Abortion is often a financial necessity. Make rearing children a reasonable and possible choice for women who aren't expecting to get pregnant, and then abortions won't happen nearly as much. Go for the root cause. Support these women and help them.
 
I don't support it, but the government doesn't have any place making medical decisions for the population. :shrug:
 
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