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Abortion

Abortion

  • Available upon request

    Votes: 41 66.1%

  • Legal only for rape or incest

    Votes: 1 1.6%

  • Legal only for safety of mother/child

    Votes: 8 12.9%

  • Legal only for rape, incest, or safety of mother/child

    Votes: 10 16.1%

  • Illegal

    Votes: 2 3.2%
  • Total voters
    62
  • Poll closed .
minnie616 said:
A person on life support in the hospital is attached to machines ...not attached to and inside a woman's body.
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So what, both are dependent
 
Rocketman said:
symantics, both depend on other sources for life, so we should just snuff those that are dependent on others, careful now you are getting into a large portion of the voting base for democrats, that is a lot of snuffing.
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I think your misunderstanding this, go look up how pregnancy works. The fetus isn't just floating around in there it's attached to the mother.
 
0bserver92 said:
I think your misunderstanding this, go look up how pregnancy works. The fetus isn't just floating around in there it's attached to the mother.
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Just like people on life support are attached to machines, both kept alive by outside sources, lets kill them all, I mean that is the liberal way, deciding who lives and who dies
 
Rocketman said:
Just like people on life support are attached to machines, both kept alive by outside sources, lets kill them all, I mean that is the liberal way, deciding who lives and who dies
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No, you just completely misunderstand. I see there is no way to convince since you seem to want to be ignorant of how pregnancy works.
 
0bserver92 said:
No, you just completely misunderstand. I see there is no way to convince since you seem to want to be ignorant of how pregnancy works.
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As you want to be ignorant as to what taking a life actually means
 
Rocketman said:
As you want to be ignorant as to what taking a life actually means
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I know what taking a life means it means killing a life which abortion isn't. Go look at pregnancy works.
 
0bserver92 said:
I know what taking a life means it means killing a life which abortion isn't. Go look at pregnancy works.
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Take a pillow and go snuff out all the people on life support tonight, we are aware of your respect for life.
 
nijjhar said:
Hi Brethren,

In abortion, what God has joined together, man puts it asunder.

Our soul, man, hails from our Father God and this joins with his wife flesh in the womb of the mother and they become one person as stated in Matt.19.

So, abortion is a murder of the innocent person and the murderer get away with it. It is not fair in society who are in God but in Mammon, there are no norms and people do whatever they like. Have you come across abortions in a country where Mammon is not worshipped? No.
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Interesting the you took this approach to this as I have often made the case that abortion and divorce are fundamentally the same thing and should be treated the same in the eyes of the law.
 
Rocketman said:
Take a pillow and go snuff out all the people on life support tonight, we are aware of your respect for life.
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Your getting the point, it has clearly flown over your head. Look at the difference between a fetus and a person on life support. The person on life support may depend on machines to live but all of bodily systems are separate form another person this is not the case with a fetus.
 
0bserver92 said:
Your getting the point, it has clearly flown over your head. Look at the difference between a fetus and a person on life support. The person on life support may depend on machines to live but all of bodily systems are separate form another person this is not the case with a fetus.
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the dependence factor is the same. And an older person has experienced a full life, and unborn child experiences none thanks to selfish women that are too lazy to use conventionall contraceptives.
 
Rocketman said:
the dependence factor is the same. And an older person has experienced a full life, and unborn child experiences none thanks to selfish women that are too lazy to use conventionall contraceptives.
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No the person of life support has bodily systems that are not dependent on the bodily systems of another person.
 
0bserver92 said:
No the person of life support has bodily systems that are not dependent on the bodily systems of another person.
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Again with symantics, we agree that you support the killing of children, now have the last word, I am done with your murdering Hitler like idealology.
 
Rocketman said:
thanks to selfish women that are too lazy to use conventionall contraceptives.
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Uh....it's 100% the fault of the female???????

It's the females fault?

Her's alone?

She's the "lazy" one?

She's the "selfish" one?
 
Dragonfly said:
Uh....it's 100% the fault of the female???????

It's the females fault?

Her's alone?

She's the "lazy" one?

She's the "selfish" one?
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Does she make the choice to have the abortion? Is she not the decision maker?
 
Rocketman said:
Again with symantics, we agree that you support the killing of children, now have the last word, I am done with your murdering Hitler like idealology.
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A ZEF is not a person, there is a difference between killing a living person and an abortion.
 
Rocketman said:
Does she make the choice to have the abortion? Is she not the decision maker?
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Are there any laws or forces that mandate that the sperm donor be 100% liable for a minimum of 50% of ALL costs for entire pregnancy and the next 18 years of child's life regardless of what happens?

Are men 100% accountable for their participation in the act of getting somebody pregnant?

I think the answer is "no".....so until then I think the over-riding decision SHOULD rest with the one person who HAS to bear the entire burden.
So her choice - CHOICE - should in fact be hers.

Not some sub-set of society that has religion and politics as their sole influence and no pans in the fire so to speak.
 
Dragonfly said:
Are there any laws or forces that mandate that the sperm donor be 100% liable for a minimum of 50% of ALL costs for entire pregnancy and the next 18 years of child's life regardless of what happens?

Are men 100% accountable for their participation in the act of getting somebody pregnant?

I think the answer is "no".....so until then I think the over-riding decision SHOULD rest with the one person who HAS to bear the entire burden.
So her choice - CHOICE - should in fact be hers.

Not some sub-set of society that has religion and politics as their sole influence and no pans in the fire so to speak.
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So by your own admission females exhibit lazy tendancies using this option for birth control. thanks
 
Dragonfly said:
Never said any such thing.

Please don't put words in my mouth.
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Now you are back tracking, make up your mind, either it is the choice of the woman or it isn't
 
My issue is with your choice of words.

Specifically "lazy" and "selfish".

I don't approve of those words at all.

An extreme over-simplification.
 
Dragonfly said:
My issue is with your choice of words.

Specifically "lazy" and "selfish".

I don't approve of those words at all.

An extreme over-simplification.
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I always laugh when people throw those words out like they have real meaning

there is NOTHING "factually" selfish or lazy about abortion in itself
 
Abortion is murder. The main purpose of the federal government is to protect life, liberty, and property. Given these two truths, abortion should and must be outlawed at all levels of government. The ONLY exception to this, in my mind, would be when the life of the woman is genuinely threatened and an abortion would be the ONLY way to save her life.
 
Intricate said:
1.)Abortion is murder. The main purpose of the federal government is to protect life, liberty, and property. 3.)Given these two truths, abortion should and must be outlawed at all levels of government. 4.)The ONLY exception to this, in my mind, would be when the life of the woman is genuinely threatened and an abortion would be the ONLY way to save her life.
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1.) false, its factually not murder
2.) allowing pro-choice factually does this
3.) its a FACT you didnt post TWO "truths"
4.) who gets to define "genuinely"
 
Is it possible to be further from objectivity?
 
mpg said:
Is it possible to be further from objectivity?
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if you were talking to me by all means back up your false claim, id love to hear it :)
 
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