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Thread: The Pledge of Allegiance

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    Re: The Pledge of Allegiance

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    What if you were a member of the local Board of Ed? How would YOU vote?
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    Re: The Pledge of Allegiance

    What is the pledge of allegiance?

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    Re: The Pledge of Allegiance

    It is a good way to focus the class to get it underway. I don't know that the Pledge itself does anything more or less than the lyrics to a song would do.

    As recited by me when I was a kid, the pledge was (and I kid you not):

    I pwedge awwegiance to da frag of the United States of America, and to the wepublic of Japan, one Nation, invisible, with liberdee and justice for all.

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    Re: The Pledge of Allegiance

    No, they shouldn't. I'm fine if schools want to do it, but no one should be forced to take part.
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    Re: The Pledge of Allegiance

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    It is a good way to focus the class to get it underway. I don't know that the Pledge itself does anything more or less than the lyrics to a song would do.

    As recited by me when I was a kid, the pledge was (and I kid you not):

    I pwedge awwegiance to da frag of the United States of America, and to the wepublic of Japan, one Nation, invisible, with liberdee and justice for all.
    I always liked Calvin's version.

    The Pledge of Allegiance-calvin-pledge-allegiance-debate-1160931_600_191-gif
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    Re: The Pledge of Allegiance

    No one should be required to recite anything. Freedom of speech includes the freedom not to speak.
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    Re: The Pledge of Allegiance

    You must be kidding , pulling my leg.
    Canada ?
    So what do the Canadians do ?
    I say YES, we need things to unite us, NOT divide
    And this is something that must not be optional.
    Patriotism can never be optional.

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    Re: The Pledge of Allegiance

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    Should kids be required to recite The Pledge of Allegiance? Why or why not?
    Only if you remove the 1950's inclusion of "under God". And I don't think any child should be brainwashed into nationalism when that nation has 750 overseas bases in 36 countries to protect the rich corporations interest.
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    Australian social scientist, quoted by Noam Chomsky in World Orders Old and New

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    The Pledge of Allegiance

    Required, no. Encouraged through normalcy? Absolutely. Encouraging nationalism and a national identity is necessary and good.
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    The Pledge of Allegiance

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    No one should be required to recite anything. Freedom of speech includes the freedom not to speak.
    oh ffs the kids arent going to be sent to the gulag for not saying it
    The morality of abortion is not a religious belief, any more than the morality of slavery, apartheid, rape, larceny, murder or arson is a religious belief. These are norms of the natural law of mankind and can be legislated even in a completely religionless society.

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