If you move up the ladder then it's a different job, not the same one. You continue to misunderstand my position.
:shrug: if you want to call it something else that's fine. Fine: Most Americans Move Up The Ladder by increasing their compensation or level of responsibility over time as they change from one job to the other. The immobile labor force where Dad Worked At The Plant For 40 Years Doing The Same Thing is no longer a common reality. Now Dad starts off doing grunt work for one employer, and ends up doing better work for someone else, and then does the same thing three or four more times.
No, you made direct reference to my "unabl(ity) to self-improve to the point where you are able to command superior levels of compensation.", which not only assumes I didn't self-improve but also assumes I didn't command superior levels of compensation - by which I assume you mean more pay.
no, pay is
part of compensation. If you believe that American workers are held down and immobile despite the overwhelming evidence that indicates the opposite :shrug:.
You have obviously never looked at how employers pay for group health insurance, though it's possible there have been radical changes in the last four years since my semi-retirement.
Do you wish to make the argument that health insurance for a 60 year old costs
less than health insurance for a 25 year old?
Because that is what we would have to see for your claim that Americans do not increase their net compensation to be accurate.
I see. So when you took your current job you didn't have these skills.
Or my current level of education. I took the job in order to
get the skills, the experience, and the education, and now thanks to it I can move upwards and onwards to a new position where I will get
new skills and experience and education and move onwards and upwards from there. Just like
most Americans.
Do you honestly believe without these additional skills you could "command superior levels of compensation"?
Strictly off of education, yes. But not to the same degree, no.
My guess to your answer is "no". Keep making my point and we'll eventually get there.
We are making
my point. Americans improve themselves and thus climb the ladder as they age, indicating that in fact a mobile workforce is full of people who are constantly improving themselves and their position, meaning that labor does, in fact, have negotiating power with employers.
So you believe each field has eight levels of hierarchy? I supposed that's possible but it seems pretty top-heavy compared to reality.
Well, my current employer has 24. One potential future employer has 15, with about 10 subsets for increased pay
within each of those 15. That's probably rather higher than average - but the point remains that
since people are continually moving up the ladder, the idea that each job
change means a job
creation is ignorant.
Instead of showing statistics on what people expect to do, why don't you show statistics on what people did last year and see if the two are even close?
:doh that
is what I showed you, Mo. Do you have difficulty reading charts? As People Age, Their Pay Increases. Social Security, for example, figures that the average American get's an average of a 2% raise
every year, annualized.