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  • I have worked my whole career while in a union

    9 10.98%
  • I belong to one currently

    15 18.29%
  • I have never and would never join one

    34 41.46%
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Thread: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Really? What is threatening to quit if you don't get a pay raise?
    My post was a response to someone who already made that claim. You should follow more closely.
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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Anywho, on this topic, Unions continue to demonstrate their level of general usefulness and competitiveness:


    Union Membership Falls to 70 Year Lows
    A perfect example of what RabidAlpaca and I are talking about with business interference in government and it's effect on the economic landscape.
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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    My post was a response to someone who already made that claim. You should follow more closely.
    Yeah except I looked back and didn't see your response to the question. Is it blackmail if I go to my boss and say "hey, company X is going to pay be Y to go work for them... and if you can't beat it, that's what I'm going to go do" ?

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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    A perfect example of what RabidAlpaca and I are talking about with business interference in government and it's effect on the economic landscape.
    Nah. When government interferes in labor disputes it is overwhelmingly to tip the scales in favor of unions.

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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Yeah except I looked back and didn't see your response to the question. Is it blackmail if I go to my boss and say "hey, company X is going to pay be Y to go work for them... and if you can't beat it, that's what I'm going to go do" ?
    I'm sure Cephus understood even if you didn't.
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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Nah. When government interferes in labor disputes it is overwhelmingly to tip the scales in favor of unions.
    Look at the recent laws in Michigan, Wisconsin, and many other Republican states, then try again. Didn't you know union busting has become the order of the day for the GOP at the state level?
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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    A perfect example of what RabidAlpaca and I are talking about with business interference in government and it's effect on the economic landscape.
    yeah, the economy is so much better under the Obama model

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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Boy did you miss the point of that. The point is the same as it was told by Aesop, an individual by themselves can be broken while in unity there is strength. And what you take from that is drug cartels. Amazing!!!!!
    cpwill is right. bundle of sticks vs the lone stick is MIGHT MAKES RIGHT.

    And you know it.

    This is why our system use to be better, government should be to defend the individual stick with the "government bundle", from everyone else. You dshould not be allowed to form your own criminal gang of toughs to get your way, and worse, form a gang and then also collude with government. You do realize much of the labor movement has ensured the poor performance in a number of non-government union-driven industries, and is one of the primary reasons so many U.S. jobs are shipped oveseas? Faced with having to navigate through brain-dead, more-harm-than-good, ignorant labor-influnced laws, you just go overseas. And which jobs are best offshored? Not the precious teachers and government workers...not the academics, not the professionals..no you paid them off to get your legislation passed..it's the more middle-class and low income jobs. You guys try to interfere and end up breaking everything you claimed you were trying to "fix". Thanks for that!

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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    Threatening to fire me if I refuse to take a pay cut, deal with poorer working conditions, or any other thing where you have failed to hold to our original agreement is also blackmail.

    But, hey, if you're saying the business owners hold all the cards and make the rules of game besides then you've shown exactly why labor unions came into existence in the first place. Most things don't just pop up out of a vacuum. Poor employment practices forced a response by workers. I can't recall union talk getting any traction at a company where the employees are happy with their jobs. But start crapping on your employees and some will start flinging the poo back at you.
    You are trading your labor to an employer in exchange for money. They decide what they're willing to pay, you decide if you're willing to work for that amount. If you don't like it, go find another job that pays better. It's that simple. If you want to be paid more money, either find an employer willing to pay you more or make yourself more valuable to the employer you already have. I don't know where you people get the idea that anyone owes you a damn thing. You need to EARN IT!
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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    Look at the recent laws in Michigan, Wisconsin, and many other Republican states, then try again. Didn't you know union busting has become the order of the day for the GOP at the state level?
    Cute except that this doesn't actually tilt the scales in favor of business. It simply reduces the tilt in favor of unions.

    I'm sure Cephus understood even if you didn't.
    Well since it's a Yes/No question, how about you go ahead and just answer

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