View Poll Results: How many here belong to a union?

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  • I have worked my whole career while in a union

    9 10.98%
  • I belong to one currently

    15 18.29%
  • I have never and would never join one

    34 41.46%
  • I used to be in one but not now

    24 29.27%
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Thread: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Examples are but a google search away.



    targeting people in their homes and going after children. classy.
    LOL. Lots of hyperbole there, Michelle Malkin . . . not unusual for your typical partisan blog though. Nice word usage with "attacks" and I really like the "one hurled an unidentified object . . . " Well, what the heck was it?

    These stories sound like protests where a few people got out of control. Just because of these few incidents doesn't mean you can say that all unions and all union members would do these things. OMG, protests.

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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    cpwill, there are PLENTY of unions and union members who DO NOT do violence. You are just being a partisan hack and trying to apply certain instances of violence to ALL unions.

    BTW, I bet you didn't know that LIUNA in New Jersey is endorsing Chris Christie for reelection. That's an interesting turn of events.

    Construction union endorses Chris Christie for re-election

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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    I can cite unions in America smashing private property and seizing hostages. can you support your claim here?
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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    LOL! Then, obviously, all Marines are mass murderers ... Charles Whitman - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    So.... no, you can't?

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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    cpwill, there are PLENTY of unions and union members who DO NOT do violence. You are just being a partisan hack and trying to apply certain instances of violence to ALL unions.
    What an interesting claim. Can you cite me doing so?

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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    I can cite unions in America smashing private property and seizing hostages. can you support your claim here?
    What - can I cite non-union people that smash private property and seize hostages?!? LOL! Open any newspaper and start reading ...
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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    What - can I cite non-union people that smash private property and seize hostages?!? Open any newspaper ...
    No, can you support your claim that unions are less violent than comparable groups?


    For example, could you demonstrate a higher level of violence coming from the Tea Party?

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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    What an interesting claim. Can you cite me doing so?
    Yes, all of your posts insinuate that union members are violent. That is the point you are trying to make, isn't it?

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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Yes, all of your posts insinuate that union members are violent.
    No they do not. You are fighting a strawman here.

    That is the point you are trying to make, isn't it?
    My claim is simply that unions are organizations built around coercion, and so that naturally leads to a greater tendency to accept forms of coercion that break the law. In addition, the sense of entitlement that many unions foster also leads to higher rates of violence, as it creates cognitive dissonance in instances where the good or service deemed entitled is not provided.
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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    No, can you support your claim that unions are less violent than comparable groups?


    For example, could you demonstrate a higher level of violence coming from the Tea Party?
    Comparable groups? I never mentioned that. I said "you're probably less violent if you belong to a union". Do you honestly believe ~12% of all violent crime in America is carried out by union members?!?
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