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  • I have worked my whole career while in a union

    9 10.98%
  • I belong to one currently

    15 18.29%
  • I have never and would never join one

    34 41.46%
  • I used to be in one but not now

    24 29.27%
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Thread: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGirlNextDoor View Post
    Your poll is lacking a tad. I've never been a unionized worker, but I wouldn't be totally opposed to joining one IF certain criteria was met.

    My father was a member of Teamsters for 35+ years and while there were times they'd piss him off by their actions, there were other times he was glad he was a member.


    so what did happen to Jimmy Hoffa?


    some unions serve useful purposes for the company as well as the workers

    some are nothing more than parasites such as AFSCME, SEIU and the teachers unions

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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    If I knew nothing of American history, you might be able to convince me of that.
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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Your link and what you said are talking about two different things. You say that people can opt out of being in the public secter union but your link is not talking about that. It is talking about opting out of having thier money used for political campaigns. Not opting out of being in a union.
    I guess you must have skimmed over this part.

    Writing for the majority, Justice Samuel Alito noted that, “Public-sector unions have the right under the First Amendment to express their views on political and social issues without government interference. But employees who choose not to join a union have the same rights.”

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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I guess you must have skimmed over this part.
    the issue is that for many public sector unions, there is no choice about being in the union. either you join the union or you don't get hired. when i was teaching public school i was forced to join not one but 3 unions and pay 3 separate and outrageous dues if i wanted to keep my job.

    the local teacher's union for the system where i taught
    the alabama education association
    the national education association

    there was no "opting out" of being in the union unless you wanted to opt out of teaching in the public school system.

    before I transferred from the national guard into the army reserves, I was basically forced to join the guard's Officer Association (read union). membership was not mandatory but any officer failing to "voluntarily" join and pay his/her dues received a "needs improvement" rating under "decision making' and "judgement" on their next officer eval.
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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    the issue is that for many public sector unions, there is no choice about being in the union. either you join the union or you don't get hired. when i was teaching public school i was forced to join not one but 3 unions and pay 3 separate and outrageous dues if i wanted to keep my job.

    the local teacher's union for the system where i taught
    the alabama education association
    the national education association

    there was no "opting out" of being in the union unless you wanted to opt out of teaching in the public school system.

    before I transferred from the national guard into the army reserves, I was basically forced to join the guard's Officer Association (read union). membership was not mandatory but any officer failing to "voluntarily" join and pay his/her dues received a "needs improvement" rating under "decision making' and "judgement" on their next officer eval.
    I believe you, and as I stated earlier, there are SOME unions that have gone off the deep end, but this certainly doesn't apply to EVERY union. There are still plenty of good unions out there that do care about their members.

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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I believe you, and as I stated earlier, there are SOME unions that have gone off the deep end, but this certainly doesn't apply to EVERY union. There are still plenty of good unions out there that do care about their members.
    maybe so...but i haven't seen one in my area
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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    maybe so...but i haven't seen one in my area
    I have.

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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    the issue is that for many public sector unions, there is no choice about being in the union. either you join the union or you don't get hired. when i was teaching public school i was forced to join not one but 3 unions and pay 3 separate and outrageous dues if i wanted to keep my job.

    the local teacher's union for the system where i taught
    the alabama education association
    the national education association

    there was no "opting out" of being in the union unless you wanted to opt out of teaching in the public school system.

    before I transferred from the national guard into the army reserves, I was basically forced to join the guard's Officer Association (read union). membership was not mandatory but any officer failing to "voluntarily" join and pay his/her dues received a "needs improvement" rating under "decision making' and "judgement" on their next officer eval.
    In what ways is the Officer Association a union? I have never heard of any US military branch being unionized.
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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    In what ways is the Officer Association a union? I have never heard of any US military branch being unionized.
    they collect dues, elect officers, send lobbyists to DC to push an agenda, etc. they do all the things that the teacher's union does

    http://www.ngaus.org/
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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    I was in the NCO assoc and never once thought it was a union.
    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    they collect dues, elect officers, send lobbyists to DC to push an agenda, etc. they do all the things that the teacher's union does
    God Bless the Marine Corps.

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