View Poll Results: How many here belong to a union?

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  • I have worked my whole career while in a union

    9 10.98%
  • I belong to one currently

    15 18.29%
  • I have never and would never join one

    34 41.46%
  • I used to be in one but not now

    24 29.27%
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Thread: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    non responsive. how did the kennedy's get the power to bootleg?

    let me guess...Unions did it...those fricken lousy working class rum running pirate lowlife scummers...lol

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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    They can represent themselves. There are more ways than just Union Bosses that the common person has for representation.
    If I knew nothing of American history, you might be able to convince me of that.
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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I have a degree in labor relations and law. I have practiced labor law for close to 30 years

    I suspect that is far more experience than being a left wing propagandist
    More lame ass opinions without anything whatsoever to back them up. You have not convinced me by your posting on the forum here that you even graduated college.
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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Unions are not "in control." No one HAS to join a union. Just like in a RTW state, no one is forced NOT to join a union. That argument is just kind of stupid, and I am not using it.
    If a person wishes to work in thier chosen profession and cannot afford to move, yes, they are forced to join a union in non-right to work states.
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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    No, you're wrong. I did not lump all employers in the same category anywhere in this thread.
    You've used the same wording that I have addressing employers as I do when addressing unions. Ex: you: "Employers do X" me: "Unions do X".
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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    How do you know?
    Because I've talked to both the illegals and the client. And I know they're illegals because they admit that they are.
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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    If I'm not mistaken, that is not allowed. Anyone has can opt out of being a union member. I think there was a court case about that. I'll have to look for that later.
    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Okay, this is regarding public sector unions.

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    A public-sector union’s requirement that nonmembers opt out of paying a special fee for the purpose of financing the union’s political and ideological activities violated the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled on June 21, 2012, (Knox v. SEIU, No. 10-1121).

    Writing for the majority, Justice Samuel Alito noted that, “Public-sector unions have the right under the First Amendment to express their views on political and social issues without government interference. But employees who choose not to join a union have the same rights.”

    Therefore, he continued, when a public-sector union imposes a special assessment or dues increase, it “may not exact any funds from nonmembers without their affirmative consent.” Chief Justice John Roberts Jr. and Justices Antonin Scalia Jr., Anthony Kennedy and Clarence Thomas joined in the opinion, while Justices Sonia Sotomayor and Ruth Bader Ginsburg concurred in the judgment but filed a separate concurring opinion. Justices Stephen Breyer and Elena Kagan dissented from the ruling.
    Your link and what you said are talking about two different things. You say that people can opt out of being in the public secter union but your link is not talking about that. It is talking about opting out of having thier money used for political campaigns. Not opting out of being in a union.
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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    the industrial revolution in the USA-Eli Whitney etc was pre-Union

    Unions did not build our shipping industry

    nor the transcontinental railroad

    and yes we are even though the left is doing its best to ruin our position
    In what category is America leading the world?

    Would you be able to compare our declining world rankings in categories like education, health care, life expectancy with our declining union membership. What really fuels our economy is it the failed policies of Reagan and trickle down economics, what will happen as earnings continue their downward spiral?

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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    I have had two union jobs in the past (early 80's) but after seeing what each stood for I secured positions where my performance as an individual could be graded and rewarded.
    Your poll is lacking a tad. I've never been a unionized worker, but I wouldn't be totally opposed to joining one IF certain criteria was met.

    My father was a member of Teamsters for 35+ years and while there were times they'd piss him off by their actions, there were other times he was glad he was a member.
    Fool me once, shame on you.
    Fool me twice....shame on me.

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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    More lame ass opinions without anything whatsoever to back them up. You have not convinced me by your posting on the forum here that you even graduated college.
    LOL, you don't even believe the stuff you post

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