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  • I have worked my whole career while in a union

    9 10.98%
  • I belong to one currently

    15 18.29%
  • I have never and would never join one

    34 41.46%
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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    And the "little guy" needs protection from those corporate bosses who ONLY care about their bottom line, especially in certain industries, and the construction industry is FULL of schemers and wheelers and dealers. That's what they do.

    Employers wouldn't DARE treat their workers poorly when they know the employees have people looking out for THEM plus free legal representation.
    I don' t have a problem with private sector unions as long as the unions teach a trade and stand behind the quality of the work. those unions have benefits to those who employ them

    I think public sector unions should be banned because public sector workers have all sorts of advantages and protections and in many cases they bargain "against" those whom they elected

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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    PEOPLE made our country great. Union members are also people.
    that is true.

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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I don' t have a problem with private sector unions as long as the unions teach a trade and stand behind the quality of the work. those unions have benefits to those who employ them

    I think public sector unions should be banned because public sector workers have all sorts of advantages and protections and in many cases they bargain "against" those whom they elected
    I can agree with that. SOME unions have gotten awfully heavy-handed. The teacher's union comes to mind immediately.

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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I can agree with that. SOME unions have gotten awfully heavy-handed. The teacher's union comes to mind immediately.
    very true and those people bargaining for the "taxpayers" are often sucking up to the unions for votes or work for people who are beholden to the unions. Chris-empty some of your sent box or in box-!!

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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    I once was a union member and I'm damned glad that I was. I moved on and up and union membership was no longer available.

    As with many issues we see here, there is no ALL GOOD or ALL BAD concerning unions. Anyone who believes there is only one position is inexperienced and foolish or both. I was a union member and I benefited. I've been on management side for many years. In honesty, unions do provide a very important function in advocating the fair treatment of workers. The crap I've seen and heard by people who have the power would astound some people. My experience is not uncommon. It just isn't discussed openly for obvious reasons. Conversely, are unions always correct and just? Not in my experience. To suggest that either side has clean skirts is naive.










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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that is true.
    I'm surprised you agreed. I thought for sure you would say "no they're not people, they're thugs"

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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    very true and those people bargaining for the "taxpayers" are often sucking up to the unions for votes or work for people who are beholden to the unions. Chris-empty some of your sent box or in box-!!
    Okay, will do.

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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    very true and those people bargaining for the "taxpayers" are often sucking up to the unions for votes or work for people who are beholden to the unions. Chris-empty some of your sent box or in box-!!
    Done.

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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I'm surprised you agreed. I thought for sure you would say "no they're not people, they're thugs"
    members often have no choice. and I had a really good working relationship with the head of a union/ You see some of his members would sue management and the union in what is called a 301 mixed case

    so I would call up the local's president and say tell me what's going on

    and he always was straight with me. sometimes he'd say-counselor, your manager is an asshole but we didn't have a valid grievance

    other times he'd say the member is an asshole and we told him not to grieve and he did so we had to take it

    and in the last big case (which I and the union attorney got thrown out and then I argued the appeal and won again) the president said both the boss and the member were assholes

    I usually have had good relationships with the Union management because I am straight with them and I am in a position to usually make the decisions as to settlements over management and when the union is right I give them a fair settlement for their member

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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    members often have no choice. and I had a really good working relationship with the head of a union/ You see some of his members would sue management and the union in what is called a 301 mixed case

    so I would call up the local's president and say tell me what's going on

    and he always was straight with me. sometimes he'd say-counselor, your manager is an asshole but we didn't have a valid grievance

    other times he'd say the member is an asshole and we told him not to grieve and he did so we had to take it

    and in the last big case (which I and the union attorney got thrown out and then I argued the appeal and won again) the president said both the boss and the member were assholes

    I usually have had good relationships with the Union management because I am straight with them and I am in a position to usually make the decisions as to settlements over management and when the union is right I give them a fair settlement for their member
    Well, I'm not familiar with all the legal speak, but I will just say that there are a-holes everywhere. We are surrounded by them. That is not exclusive to union members or management.

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