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  • I have worked my whole career while in a union

    9 10.98%
  • I belong to one currently

    15 18.29%
  • I have never and would never join one

    34 41.46%
  • I used to be in one but not now

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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Most regular working class people CANNOT afford a lawyer, especially AFTER they have gotten fired. The unions protect workers from being put in this situation.
    1: You're assuming that the goal of having RTW gets rid of unions. It doesn't. I live in a state that has been RTW since 1985 and guess what...we still have unions. How have they survived this long in a RTW state? Simple, they changed thier tactics.

    2: There are tons of pro bono lawyers out there if you look and even more lawyers that state that they won't get paid unless they win the case. There are options out there. Just improve yourself and find them.

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    This comment doesn't even make any sense.
    Think about it. There are less illegal aliens in this country than union workers. How is it that illegal aliens are able to get lawyers, and so much representation in our system? They certainly do not belong to any unions.
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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Apparently some people want to go back to the robber baron days when corporations would OWN entire towns, and everyone who lived in those towns was indebted to these corporations.
    Hyperbole is hyperbole. And you've got it down pat.
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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    And why on earth wouldn't ANY worker want union representation? Unless they listen to the bogus stuff like is being said here. Even with dues, etc., a union construction worker makes more money and has more benefits than a nonunion construction worker.
    Read through this thread. There are plenty of people that have worked in unions and found that they prefered to not be in one. They didn't decide to not like unions because they listened to "bogus stuff". They decided to not like unions because of personal experiance with unions.
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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    [QUOTE=Kal'Stang;1061310916]
    1: You're assuming that the goal of having RTW gets rid of unions. It doesn't. I live in a state that has been RTW since 1985 and guess what...we still have unions. How have they survived this long in a RTW state? Simple, they changed thier tactics.
    I made no such claim. You keep saying "they" as if ALL unions are the same. It would be nice if you guys would tell which unions you are referring too.

    2: There are tons of pro bono lawyers out there if you look and even more lawyers that state that they won't get paid unless they win the case. There are options out there. Just improve yourself and find them.
    TONS? I don't think so. Lawyers who take on a case pro bono do so because they are expecting a HUGE payout. Those types of cases are usually personal injury claims with injuries resulting and workmen's comp claims.



    Think about it. There are less illegal aliens in this country than union workers. How is it that illegal aliens are able to get lawyers, and so much representation in our system? They certainly do not belong to any unions.
    Illegal aliens get court-appointed lawyers I would think.

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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Read through this thread. There are plenty of people that have worked in unions and found that they prefered to not be in one. They didn't decide to not like unions because they listened to "bogus stuff". They decided to not like unions because of personal experiance with unions.
    Again, there are ALL different kinds of unions. It is unfair of you to lump them all into one category. They are NOT all the same.

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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Hyperbole is hyperbole. And you've got it down pat.
    It's no more hyperbole than claiming that all union workers are "thugs" and do violence.

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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    They don't "force" anyone to join. It is completely voluntary.

    Where has anyone been forced to join a union against their will?
    This is funny. You claim that the average non-union worker can't afford a lawyer..particularly if they get fired and yet you totally discount the same arguement (that of being too poor) being applied to moving to a different area where unions are not in control.

    This is a constant thing with those that argue for keeping unions as they are today in the US. They use one arguement and then when that same arguement is used against them they discount that arguement.
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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    It's no more hyperbole than claiming that all union workers are "thugs" and do violence.
    Who in this thread has said that? Legalized extortion sure. But do violence? Hmm....
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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Again, there are ALL different kinds of unions. It is unfair of you to lump them all into one category. They are NOT all the same.
    And yet you lump all employers into the same catagory? Whats good for the goose is good for the gander.
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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Illegal aliens get court-appointed lawyers I would think.
    Can't respond to all of this...gotta get to work. But for this....I work at an answering service. One of our clients takes cases for illegal aliens. She is not court appointed.
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