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  • I have worked my whole career while in a union

    9 10.98%
  • I belong to one currently

    15 18.29%
  • I have never and would never join one

    34 41.46%
  • I used to be in one but not now

    24 29.27%
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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Precisely my point. Unions can be a good thing, but they need it needs to be a completely voluntary. Imposing the union will on someone who wants nothing to do with it is fascism at its best.
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    I did not want to join a union so instead of working at Ford, I got a job at Honda

    Such fascism
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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Precisely my point. Unions can be a good thing, but they need it needs to be a completely voluntary. Imposing the union will on someone who wants nothing to do with it is fascism at its best.
    My wife used to work for a company that was adamantly anti-union, the owner said he'd never run a union shop and every time there was a vote, the employees unanimously turned down unionization. He took really good care of everyone without having a union around. That pissed off the union, who would routinely send thugs around to vandalize the site, they'd slash tires on work trucks, they broke into the office once and stole all the computers. Luckily, he had cameras and caught all of the people involved and when the cops showed up, the union hung them all out to dry claiming they had no knowledge of their actions.

    Unions suck.
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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    Example


    I did not want to join a union so instead of working at Ford, I got a job at Honda

    Such fascism
    Your situation does not represent every American. Not everyone has that opportunity. So once again, if unions are so awesome, why does membership have to be mandatory?
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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    My wife used to work for a company that was adamantly anti-union, the owner said he'd never run a union shop and every time there was a vote, the employees unanimously turned down unionization. He took really good care of everyone without having a union around. That pissed off the union, who would routinely send thugs around to vandalize the site, they'd slash tires on work trucks, they broke into the office once and stole all the computers. Luckily, he had cameras and caught all of the people involved and when the cops showed up, the union hung them all out to dry claiming they had no knowledge of their actions.

    Unions suck.
    It's so sad, the concept of a union is such an amazing one. Free people voluntarily banding together to bargain for better wages and working conditions. However what we have here is a corrupt gang of thugs that wants to petition the government to force people who dont want to be union to pay them money. It's so sad seeing how effective and voluntary the unions are here in europe, vs the bull**** that we tolerate at home.
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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Your situation does not represent every American. Not everyone has that opportunity. So once again, if unions are so awesome, why does membership have to be mandatory?
    It is not

    People at Walmart are not part of a Union, nor are over 85% or so of the private industry jobs in the US.

    That is far from being mandatory
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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    It is not

    People at Walmart are not part of a Union, nor are over 85% or so of the private industry jobs in the US.

    That is far from being mandatory
    Then why do you demand that union membership for some careers must be mandatory?
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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Then why do you demand that union membership for some careers must be mandatory?
    Careers no

    Positions at companies that have made such contracts with unions

    I just point out that no careers force a person to be part of a union. People have the choice of working at a company that has a union and is a closed shop or not work for that company. They can work for or at any number of other companies/jobs that do not require it
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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    It's so sad, the concept of a union is such an amazing one. Free people voluntarily banding together to bargain for better wages and working conditions. However what we have here is a corrupt gang of thugs that wants to petition the government to force people who dont want to be union to pay them money. It's so sad seeing how effective and voluntary the unions are here in europe, vs the bull**** that we tolerate at home.
    It's not about bargaining, it's about demanding. The unions have an absurd amount of power, they demand what they want and if they don't get it, they shut your business down until you cough it up because you legally can't go hire new non-union workers. It's like trying to deal with a guy who has a gun in your mouth, but you're not allowed to take it out.
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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    It's not about bargaining, it's about demanding. The unions have an absurd amount of power, they demand what they want and if they don't get it, they shut your business down until you cough it up because you legally can't go hire new non-union workers. It's like trying to deal with a guy who has a gun in your mouth, but you're not allowed to take it out.
    You can hire replacement workers during a strike or lock out, they business can and many due operate during strikes
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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    You can hire replacement workers during a strike or lock out, they business can and many due operate during strikes
    You cannot simply terminate the striking workers and bring in entirely new workers.
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