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  • I have worked my whole career while in a union

    9 10.98%
  • I belong to one currently

    15 18.29%
  • I have never and would never join one

    34 41.46%
  • I used to be in one but not now

    24 29.27%
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Thread: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    So you weren't a consultant when you had a union job, is that right? Looks like your comparing apples to oranges.

    The union jobs that both you and Maggie are describing sound like low level skill jobs that anyone with a HS education or less could do. So lets say if someone on the cup cake factory line had a talent for wrapping cupcakes and went too fast, then the company would expect everyone on the line to have a talent for wrapping cupcakes and work faster than they could realistically handle. But if thats your only talent then be happy you have a job with a higher than minimum wage at all....because minimum wage or less is what the cupcake wrappers would have been making without a union and to my knowledge there aren't too many companies that need cupcake wrappers.
    Honey please read my original post, consulting is my job now, which I never would have gotten to staying in a union. Unions are for people that can't speak or think for themselves.

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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    Honey please read my original post, consulting is my job now, which I never would have gotten to staying in a union. Unions are for people that can't speak or think for themselves.
    And what type of people are jobs at Walmart for?
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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    I dunno, the money is good and he benefits are better and...
    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    Honey please read my original post, consulting is my job now, which I never would have gotten to staying in a union. Unions are for people that can't speak or think for themselves.
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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    I think unions are necessary for some types of work, such as the construction industry, if only for safety. All of the guys on union construction jobs have to be OSHA certified. Also, the standards are higher as far as equipment and safety go. That is why a lot of times a union job might take a little longer, because they are sticklers to safety issues.

    I will note that my ex worked on Gillette Stadium, and that was actually completed on time and under budget. The whole job was union.

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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    And what type of people are jobs at Walmart for?
    My kid worked there while in college, it was great for him

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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    I dunno, the money is good and he benefits are better and...
    How so, and benefits and pay are much better now than when I was part of a union.

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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    How so, and benefits and pay are much better now than when I was part of a union.
    I would think that all depends on what industry you work in.

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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I would think that all depends on what industry you work in.
    I think it depends on whether a person is willing to be paid according to their performance. If everyone was paid according to their individual contribution to the bottom line, we would not be in the shape we are in.

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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    right out of grad school, i worked in a CD warehouse which was covered by UAW. the place fired a bunch of us right before our 90 day probationary period was up so that they could bring in temps for a couple bucks less an hour. the job sucked. management invented reasons to fire each of us, but the union sat in and fought them, even though we had only worked a few months. i moved on to work in my field; others weren't as lucky. i'm still grateful that the union fought for me, though.

    the salary wasn't exorbitant, either. it was nine bucks an hour plus an HMO. i think the place has closed, as CDs have fallen off the map since then. i've considered making a trip there to urinate on the empty building. i do feel bad for the people who had many years in there; i hope that they found other work and didn't get totally screwed.

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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    I think it depends on whether a person is willing to be paid according to their performance. If everyone was paid according to their individual contribution to the bottom line, we would not be in the shape we are in.
    Just look at the sweat shops in other countries where workers have no rights. If not forced, a lot of companies would NOT pay an employee their worth. They would pay as little as possible to increase their own bottom line. That is why China is growing at such a rapid pace. Whether you want to admit it or not, unions play an important role in helping to set average wages for certain jobs. I can agree that some unions have become too greedy and political, but I think they are still important. They also help employees with legal battles with employers, many of which would not be able to afford counsel otherwise.

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