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  • I have worked my whole career while in a union

    9 10.98%
  • I belong to one currently

    15 18.29%
  • I have never and would never join one

    34 41.46%
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Thread: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    Of course not

    Some are jeolous that union members make so much money

    Some consider it to be socialism

    Some are upset at the strikes

    Some in management are upset at whatr can be restrictive working regulations

    Some are upset at what can make the company uncompetitive

    Some are upset at the corruption in some unions (past or present, ie Teamsters)

    Some are upsert at the political donations unions make to political parties they are opposed to


    I expect that of the above reasons, the higher wages/benifits, political donations and the believe it is socialism are the biggest reasons of dislike from the majority of people (non management, non owner/large investors)
    If that's all true, then why do you believe that people should be forced to join unions? People tend to act in their own best interest. If joining a union would improve their lives, they would.

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    I don't see anyone forcing you to join a union. In fact, you seem intent on trying to force people not to join a union.
    Really? Because I've stated from the beginning that I'm pro-union. The ability for free citizens to form groups to lobby for better wages is a fundamental human right. You on the other hand want to force people into unions. I am lucky enough to be in a career (electrical engineering) that is virtually unionless. However, if I were in a career that was heavily unionized in a non-right to work state, it would be near impossible for me to get a job. You want to force other non-willing workers into unions so that your union can have more power. It's sad, and distinctly anti-liberty.
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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by EarlzP View Post
    I can tell that you have never been on a union construction job, told many? So you are disrespectful to people regardless of the situation.
    Brick masonry and construction were my first careers, I worked on two projects involving large production plants. Both were union and a pain in the ass. You confuse honesty with being respectful, yep you are a union man

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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    LOL Do you really believe the company cares about how well you pick peas? No, they only care about how many peas you pick. So if a pea picker picks peas faster than other pea pickers can pick peas then the company expects every pea picker to pick peas faster.
    Slow one, there are other contributors to the bottom line besides picking peas.

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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Really? Because I've stated from the beginning that I'm pro-union. The ability for free citizens to form groups to lobby for better wages is a fundamental human right. You on the other hand want to force people into unions. I am lucky enough to be in a career (electrical engineering) that is virtually unionless. However, if I were in a career that was heavily unionized in a non-right to work state, it would be near impossible for me to get a job. You want to force other non-willing workers into unions so that your union can have more power. It's sad, and distinctly anti-liberty.
    You call union people "facists" in one breath and then in the next you say you're pro-union and then in the next breath you proceed to bash unions? Am I missing something here?

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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    Of course not

    Some are jeolous that union members make so much money

    Some consider it to be socialism

    Some are upset at the strikes

    Some in management are upset at whatr can be restrictive working regulations

    Some are upset at what can make the company uncompetitive

    Some are upset at the corruption in some unions (past or present, ie Teamsters)

    Some are upsert at the political donations unions make to political parties they are opposed to


    I expect that of the above reasons, the higher wages/benifits, political donations and the believe it is socialism are the biggest reasons of dislike from the majority of people (non management, non owner/large investors)
    Also the violence and vandalism associated with the mob mentality from unions

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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    You call union people "facists" in one breath and then in the next you say you're pro-union and then in the next breath you proceed to bash unions? Am I missing something here?
    Yes, you sure are. I'm calling the pro-union types in this thread that support mandatory union membership fascists. You're trying to strong arm money out of citizens that want nothing to do with you. If your union would offer something that would benefit their lives, they would join it. Right to work was a major blow to shakedown practices of many unions.
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    I've got to say that it is shadenfreudalicious to see the rich and famous fucquewads on the coast suffering from the fires.

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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    If that's all true, then why do you believe that people should be forced to join unions? People tend to act in their own best interest. If joining a union would improve their lives, they would.
    Who is forced to work for GM? or Ford. Other then certain trades and professions being part of a union/association is not mandatory to work in a particular field. If you want to work in the auto assembly industry you can work for Honda or Toyota instead.

    People have the choice to work for GM or Ford, if it requires joining a union to work there, they have the choice to work there or find work somewhere else
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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    Who is forced to work for GM? or Ford. Other then certain trades and professions being part of a union/association is not mandatory to work in a particular field. If you want to work in the auto assembly industry you can work for Honda or Toyota instead.

    People have the choice to work for GM or Ford, if it requires joining a union to work there, they have the choice to work there or find work somewhere else
    Not anymore, thanks to right to work. You're only pro union mandation because you're in a union. I can guarantee if you didn't want to be in a union you'd have beef with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    I've got to say that it is shadenfreudalicious to see the rich and famous fucquewads on the coast suffering from the fires.

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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Not anymore, thanks to right to work. You're only pro union mandation because you're in a union. I can guarantee if you didn't want to be in a union you'd have beef with it.

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    I am not in a union.

    Currently I am in a management position (technical), at a company that does have a union (teamsters) which I have not been a part of.

    As for Ford or GM, they could still require joining the union as a condition of working there. Especially if the union runs the pension plan
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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    What kind of person would want to ride on the backs of their union colleagues without contributing to their struggle?
    Don't work out, work in.

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