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  • I have worked my whole career while in a union

    9 10.98%
  • I belong to one currently

    15 18.29%
  • I have never and would never join one

    34 41.46%
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Thread: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    If your loyalty is actually to the working class then what matter is it if non-union members get the benefits of union negotiated contracts? Why force non-union workers to join a union if they do not wish to?
    The same reason Conservatives don't like people on welfare (well no one likes people on welfare but you get what I mean).

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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by 0bserver92 View Post
    The same reason Conservatives don't like people on welfare (well no one likes people on welfare but you get what I mean).
    In othewords you are not actually for the working class. You are for the working class that pay you. What makes you any differenct that those companies that you rail against again?
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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    In othewords you are not actually for the working class. You are for the working class that pay you. What makes you any differenct that those companies that you rail against again?
    Like I said before it's the same as Conservatives and welfare they are leaching off the system that gives the benefits without ever paying into it.

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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by EarlzP View Post
    So you don't think calling union workers weak minded is an insult? Have you ever told any union worker face to face that they are weak minded, if not why would you do it in this format? Most of the union workers I have been associated with had to serve a 4 year apprenticeship.

    How many jobs have you worked in?
    I have told many that they are weak when they are afraid to be graded on individual merit.

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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    If your loyalty is actually to the working class then what matter is it if non-union members get the benefits of union negotiated contracts? Why force non-union workers to join a union if they do not wish to?
    You don't get the point that the more members you have the more negotiating power you have? And with 93% of all private sector jobs being non-union, how can you possibly claim people have no choice?

    "Without unions, it's a cakewalk for Corporate America. Corporations are not only worshiped by the U.S. Congress, but virtually every industry in the country -- from bottle cap manufacturers, to cauliflower growers, to guided missile makers -- has lobbyists representing their interests.

    What do working men and women have in the way of lobbyists? Other than unions, nothing. Other than unions, no one. Indeed, even with unions, they usually find themselves out-manned, out-spent, and out-gunned, which is why the accusations of unions being "too powerful" are so ludicrous. People have said to me with a straight face, "Unions were necessary long time ago, but now they've gotten too powerful."

    Really? Too powerful? Here's a stunning fact: Only about 7 percent of all private sector jobs are unionized. Consider that figure. Seven percent!! That means that 93 percent of all private sector jobs in the United States are non-union. "


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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    You don't get the point that the more members you have the more negotiating power you have? And with 93% of all private sector jobs being non-union, how can you possibly claim people have no choice?

    "Without unions, it's a cakewalk for Corporate America. Corporations are not only worshiped by the U.S. Congress, but virtually every industry in the country -- from bottle cap manufacturers, to cauliflower growers, to guided missile makers -- has lobbyists representing their interests.

    What do working men and women have in the way of lobbyists? Other than unions, nothing. Other than unions, no one. Indeed, even with unions, they usually find themselves out-manned, out-spent, and out-gunned, which is why the accusations of unions being "too powerful" are so ludicrous. People have said to me with a straight face, "Unions were necessary long time ago, but now they've gotten too powerful."

    Really? Too powerful? Here's a stunning fact: Only about 7 percent of all private sector jobs are unionized. Consider that figure. Seven percent!! That means that 93 percent of all private sector jobs in the United States are non-union. "


    David Macaray: A Country Without Labor Unions
    an opinion piece from a guy who bills himself as

    labor columnist, playwright and author. I don't see any stuff that suggests he has any expertise

    I guess its shocking I don't find his opinions to have any merit

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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    I have told many that they are weak when they are afraid to be graded on individual merit.
    I can tell that you have never been on a union construction job, told many? So you are disrespectful to people regardless of the situation.

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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    an opinion piece from a guy who bills himself as

    labor columnist, playwright and author. I don't see any stuff that suggests he has any expertise

    I guess its shocking I don't find his opinions to have any merit

    Unlike your opinions, his opinions are backed up by solid facts which he sourced from BLS:

    Union Members Summary
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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    an opinion piece from a guy who bills himself as

    labor columnist, playwright and author. I don't see any stuff that suggests he has any expertise

    I guess its shocking I don't find his opinions to have any merit
    Nothing anyone could ever say, no facts would alter your opinion. Unions built this country from the ground up and that is why the conservative base starting with Reagan and now with Grover and his tea baggers who continue trying to dismantle the unions. All they have to do is break the back of whats left of organized labor and the rich can continue to plunder the economy of our country until they have it exactly like they want it two classes the rich and the poor. 2014 is coming and the conservatives will finally get their due.

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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Yes, there is such a thing as a "union job" and companies that negotiate with unions can only hire union labor. That is what is meant by a "union job" and a "union company".
    Aha, so you guys are responsible for cock blocking jobs. You won't be doing that for much longer as long as right to work keeps spreading. Tell me again how awesome unions are.

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    You missed the post above evidently that documents the decline of unions in the US. You may keep your loyalty to corporations if you wish. Mine remain with the working class. Perhaps it is my German ethnicity that engender my support for unions.
    I support unions, and I live in Germany where they aren't awful. The problem with American unions is they are corrupt and more about making money for the bosses, and fighting the employees, not the employers.

    The idea behind a union is that it should be a voluntary group of works who band together to negotiate better conditions. Forcing people to join your little club just breed more contempt.

    Quote Originally Posted by 0bserver92 View Post
    No that's why if you don't like unions, find something else to do. The entire point of unions is power in numbers, a union has more power to negotiate with a company than a single person. Through collective bargaining unions have gained numerous benefits and they fight to keep those benefits. In a right to work situation the non-unionized workers feed off of the benefits that the unions bargained for, or the employer can now cut benefits and pay because there is no one to stop them.
    How self-centered are you that you think you can call "dibs" on a career field, then control it? Sounds like the unions should stop stop being tyrannical, they might actually have people want to join them.

    I'm more than glad to see unions fall and die as long as they carry your pathetic attitude that everybody must be a part of a union or **** off. I'm glad some states now have laws that prevent union coercion on innocent citizens. You're trying to screw workers, not employers. You really disgust me.
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