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  • I have worked my whole career while in a union

    9 10.98%
  • I belong to one currently

    15 18.29%
  • I have never and would never join one

    34 41.46%
  • I used to be in one but not now

    24 29.27%
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Thread: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    But they didn't break the backs of unions. They just made it to where the individual could choose to join a union voluntarily or not join. If that breaks the union back because people don't want to be a part of the union then there is something wrong with the union itself. If they addressed that then maybe people would voluntarily sign up to be a part of the union, thereby making them strong again.

    People will voluntarily join something that benefits them. If they think that its not going to benefit them then they won't join. Its as simple as that.
    No, they made it so that individuals who don't join a union but work at union jobs benefit from those that do pay union dues. Those people are called 'free loaders" and they cause resentment from those who fought for the wages and benefits that the freeloaders didn't earn or pay for.

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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    So why did you imply that right to work was responsible for making the states poor? And you didn't answer my question, why should someone be forced against their will to join a union?

    Unions in the US are largely responsible for helping build a middle class, not to mention safer working conditions. No one forces anyone to join a union. They are free to work wherever they wish.

    My experience has shown that America is strongest when it has a strong working class.
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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Doing everything possible to attract industry to their states can never be a bad thing. Without it? Nothing will change. Do you really think the answer to their myriad problems is their not being a Right-To-Work state? You see that as a solution??
    I am for doing whatever it takes to build a stronger working class. Unions are part of what builds a strong working class.
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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I am for doing whatever it takes to build a stronger working class. Unions are part of what builds a strong working class.
    the only area where I can see unions continuing to exist are areas where foreign competition is not possible such as public service areas: the very areas where unions should not exist

    economic reality is killing unions in manufacturing

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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    How is it insulting? I have been in various industry markets for over 30 years. I have seen union after union break the plant they work in over and over and over. It is sickening.
    So you don't think calling union workers weak minded is an insult? Have you ever told any union worker face to face that they are weak minded, if not why would you do it in this format? Most of the union workers I have been associated with had to serve a 4 year apprenticeship.

    How many jobs have you worked in?

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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Unions in the US are largely responsible for helping build a middle class, not to mention safer working conditions. No one forces anyone to join a union. They are free to work wherever they wish.

    My experience has shown that America is strongest when it has a strong working class.
    Yet you stated that a very small portion of citizens are in a union. Yet that small portion is responsible for holding up the middle class?

    So you're pro-right to work right? You stated that it should be voluntary to be in a union.

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    No, they made it so that individuals who don't join a union but work at union jobs benefit from those that do pay union dues. Those people are called 'free loaders" and they cause resentment from those who fought for the wages and benefits that the freeloaders didn't earn or pay for.
    There is no such thing as a "union job". A union can not simply take entire control over a company. Any position offered by an employer can be filled by someone who wants to join a union, or doesn't want to join a union.
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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    You stated that it should be voluntary to be in a union.
    What he means it entirely voluntary to join a union just don't work in a profession that has unions.

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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by 0bserver92 View Post
    What he means it entirely voluntary to join a union just don't work in a profession that has unions.
    Oh I see, so not voluntary at all then? **** me if I want to be a construction worker or some other unionized job right?
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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Oh I see, so not voluntary at all then? **** me if I want to be a construction worker or some other unionized job right?
    Yes, why should I let people leach off the system, don't like it go somewhere else. It's same as if there is no jobs, move somewhere else with jobs.

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    Re: How many here belong a union in the public or private sector? Why? or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by 0bserver92 View Post
    Yes, why should I let people leach off the system, don't like it go somewhere else. It's same as if there is no jobs, move somewhere else with jobs.
    Leach off what system? The free market employment system being strong armed by unions?
    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    I've got to say that it is shadenfreudalicious to see the rich and famous fucquewads on the coast suffering from the fires.

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