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  • Because itís an equal rights issue

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    8 4.71%
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    Re: What is the primary reason behind your support for same-sex marriage? [W:539/549]

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    It would be logical that there are more cases of pedophile attacks from heterosexuals considering that there are more heterosexuals than homosexuals.

    The proportions of heterosexual and homos... [J Sex Marital Ther. 1992] - PubMed - NCBI

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    Previous investigations have indicated that the ratio of sex offenders against female children vs. offenders against male children is approximately 2:1, while the ratio of gynephiles to androphiles among the general population is approximately 20:1. The present study investigated whether the etiology of preferred partner sex among pedophiles is related to the etiology of preferred partner sex among males preferring adult partners. Using phallometric test sensitivities to calculate the proportion of true pedophiles among various groups of sex offenders against children, and taking into consideration previously reported mean numbers of victims per offender group, the ratio of heterosexual to homosexual pedophiles was calculated to be approximately 11:1. This suggests that the resulting proportion of true pedophiles among persons with a homosexual erotic development is greater than that in persons who develop heterosexually. This, of course, would not indicate that androphilic males have a greater propensity to offend against children.
    Choice of victims is not indicitive of homo/heterosexuality. Pedophiles are primarily attracted to children, an age range, not a gender.
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    Re: What is the primary reason behind your support for same-sex marriage? [W:539/549]

    Less than 9% oppose SSM according to this thread's poll.

    That's pretty awesome. I think it's time to let this insanely circular thread die. (another new one will appear shortly...)

    In less than 10 years ssm won't be a topic because as a country we're growing in our acceptance of it.

    The wildly ignorant will never change their minds, but thankfully their numbers are dwindling.

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    Re: What is the primary reason behind your support for same-sex marriage? [W:539/549]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Less than 9% oppose SSM according to this thread's poll.

    That's pretty awesome. I think it's time to let this insanely circular thread die. (another new one will appear shortly...)

    In less than 10 years ssm won't be a topic because as a country we're growing in our acceptance of it.

    The wildly ignorant will never change their minds, but thankfully their numbers are dwindling.
    There will always be the ignorant there is no way around that. I mean how long has slavery been outlawed?

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    Re: What is the primary reason behind your support for same-sex marriage? [W:539/549]

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    There will always be the ignorant there is no way around that. I mean how long has slavery been outlawed?
    Aye....but you've got about as much chance of getting an intelligent response out of the dust under your couch than you do from a gay-hater.

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    Re: What is the primary reason behind your support for same-sex marriage? [W:539/549]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Choice of victims is not indicitive of homo/heterosexuality. Pedophiles are primarily attracted to children, an age range, not a gender.
    I agree and did not say otherwise. I just found this study interesting. If you read more than the abstract it points out cultural influences among some subsections of homosexuals as the cause not being homosexual. If you look online at homosexual porn, you will find a disproportional amount of porn aimed at sex between older and younger homosexuals. Not all homosexuals view porn so it is the subsection that views that porn that has created those numbers. Much like it isnt typical for white males to be sexual predators but statistically white male dominate that field. And the same could be said about mass shootings. Just because someone is a homosexual or whatever does not mean that they have the tendency to commit certain crimes. Take minorities for example, one could show that more minorities commit violent crimes than non-minorities but you have to take into account that more minorities live in substandard conditions. It wasnt the race as the factor but the circumstances and to a certain extent the cultural influences.


    So yes I agree completely with what you just said but the subject isnt as simple as that and the study that I linked shows that and makes it clear that you are correct. I just like to make these things known to curb the nay sayers that like to twist known facts to pad their argument. With this out in the open they cannot comeback now and say that pedophilia is a result of any certain sexuality. Because the reality is that these monsters come form all walks of life. And the numbers show exactly that. I know that I have ran into homosexuals that try to assert that heterosexuals are more prone to pedophilia which isnt true either. We need to all be honest here.

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    Re: What is the primary reason behind your support for same-sex marriage? [W:539/549]

    What is the primary reason behind your support for same-sex marriage?

    It is one of the symbolic issues that have replaced serious politics and stands for 'my side'. I have nothing against it, either, if that's what some couples want.

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    Re: What is the primary reason behind your support for same-sex marriage? [W:539/549]

    Because in order to keep people from doing something, I have to care. I don't care what gay folks do. Wanna get married? Have it at, people. Wanna get Wendy's drive-thru as opposed to walking in? Okay, don't care. Wanna order the chicken and shrimp hibachi instead of the steak and shrimp? Cool, whatever bro. It's all the same to me.

    I would've chosen "I don't care", but that's not really it. I care that they should be able to do whatever they want, because I don't care about what they're doing. So, for me, equal rights. They should be able to get married just like I should be able to take a nap on my couch or on my recliner. One is their choice. One is my choice. Everyone else can mind their own business.
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    Re: What is the primary reason behind your support for same-sex marriage? [W:539/549]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Which has nothing to do with their sexuality, what gender of adult a pedophile would be in an adult relationship with. Which is why it is stupid to try to link homosexuality and pedophilia because one has nothing to do with the other.
    They're both abnormal sexual attractions. Maybe Jerry Sandusky was "born that way". I think the biggest difference is that you have disgust with one but not the other, much like SSM supporters always spew.
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    Re: What is the primary reason behind your support for same-sex marriage? [W:539/549]

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    fundamentally, I believe people are against incest marriage because they think it's icky. which is not a valid reason to deny rights. as far as Hugh Hefner marrying a 30 y/o being way more icky than two lesbian...I guess that is a matter of personal preference.
    Too bad we actually have real life examples of generational incest leading to significant genetic defects in human populations.

    Try again with less fail Oscar. Next time when you attempt to use someone's words against them, try to actually have an argument.

    And as for animal populations, isolated cheetah and lion inbreeding has lead to population collapse in parts of Africa in as few as three generations as a single disease can wipe out the majority of individuals in one fell swoop. What you described earlier fails to account for genetic introduction of unrelated genes.
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    Re: What is the primary reason behind your support for same-sex marriage? [W:539/549]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gawain View Post
    Only because its against the law. NAMBLA is all for it

    Baloney. Sodomy laws are no longer needed as our gene pools are now so diluted theres very little chance of abnormalities.

    In the old days yes.
    Sodomy laws were never related to genetic diversity. What the hell are you talking about? Sodomy laws were direct legislation of the Bible, which is HIGHLY unconstitutional.
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