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  • Because itís an equal rights issue

    93 54.71%
  • Because gays/lesbians love each other too

    8 4.71%
  • Because I despise bigots/haters

    2 1.18%
  • Because I donít want to be labeled a bigot

    1 0.59%
  • Iím opposed to gay marriage

    14 8.24%
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    17 10.00%
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    Re: What is the primary reason behind your support for same-sex marriage? [W:539/549]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    It is an even worse fail than that. Pedophiles tend to prefer the opposite sex, not the same sex, in adult relationships, and overwhelmingly so. The idea that gays prey on children is absolutely false. However, since Oscar's whole argument is trying to equate gays with other groups, he has to keep pushing these lies.
    Well, then there is the issue that pedophilia actually has little to do with the sex of the victim, but far more with the age and issues of power. There are plenty of straight boy scout leaders who got caught molesting young boys. Maybe we should ban heteros from marriage?

    Fundamentally, I believe people are against gay marriage because of Religion and because they think it's Icky. Neither of which are valid reasons to deny rights. We don't bar 70 year olds from marrying people young enough to be their grandkids (Hugh Hefner just got married to a 30 year old). That's WAY more icky then two lesbians getting married.

    People against gay marriage should just suck it up, be honest (you know actually follow what Christ said you hypocrites!) and come out with their real reason.
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    Re: What is the primary reason behind your support for same-sex marriage? [W:539/549]

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Well, then there is the issue that pedophilia actually has little to do with the sex of the victim, but far more with the age and issues of power. There are plenty of straight boy scout leaders who got caught molesting young boys. Maybe we should ban heteros from marriage?

    Fundamentally, I believe people are against gay marriage because of Religion and because they think it's Icky. Neither of which are valid reasons to deny rights. We don't bar 70 year olds from marrying people young enough to be their grandkids (Hugh Hefner just got married to a 30 year old). That's WAY more icky then two lesbians getting married.

    People against gay marriage should just suck it up, be honest (you know actually follow what Christ said you hypocrites!) and come out with their real reason.
    Basically correct. I beleive the number one thing that determines the gender of a child molested by a pedophile is access. SSM has nothing to do with pedophilia, nothing to do with incest, nothing to do with polygamy, nothing to do with bestiality. And yet those things are brought into every single thread on the topic. The issue is that there are no logical arguments against SSM, only emotional ones. Therefore the need for crappy debate tactics like trying to tie SSM with other, unrelated groups.
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    Re: What is the primary reason behind your support for same-sex marriage? [W:539/549]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    It is an even worse fail than that. Pedophiles tend to prefer the opposite sex, not the same sex, in adult relationships, and overwhelmingly so. The idea that gays prey on children is absolutely false. However, since Oscar's whole argument is trying to equate gays with other groups, he has to keep pushing these lies.
    I think what you were trying to say is that pedophiles are pedophiles not homosexuals. That being said though if you look online there is a good deal of porn that caters to men who like boys. And one could dig up plenty of pedophile men that assaulted boys. Which the anti-gay league has been exploiting the reality of these type of pedophiles for years as why they oppose homosexuality. But they leave out the fact that an equal amount of pedophiles assault girls as well. It is a very dishonest tactic because pedophiles are not after sex they are attacking their victims for other reasons. Many cases of pedophile attacks on children did not even involve any sexual abuse at all.

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    Re: What is the primary reason behind your support for same-sex marriage? [W:539/549]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    And we will not have, nor are we going to implement, your form of Communism in this country.
    I hope you provide ample evidence of Redess' communism,or you just broke the 9th Commandment once more.

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    Re: What is the primary reason behind your support for same-sex marriage? [W:539/549]

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Well, then there is the issue that pedophilia actually has little to do with the sex of the victim, but far more with the age and issues of power. There are plenty of straight boy scout leaders who got caught molesting young boys. Maybe we should ban heteros from marriage?

    Fundamentally, I believe people are against gay marriage because of Religion and because they think it's Icky. Neither of which are valid reasons to deny rights. We don't bar 70 year olds from marrying people young enough to be their grandkids (Hugh Hefner just got married to a 30 year old). That's WAY more icky then two lesbians getting married.

    People against gay marriage should just suck it up, be honest (you know actually follow what Christ said you hypocrites!) and come out with their real reason.
    fundamentally, I believe people are against incest marriage because they think it's icky. which is not a valid reason to deny rights. as far as Hugh Hefner marrying a 30 y/o being way more icky than two lesbian...I guess that is a matter of personal preference.

    some people think old dudes marrying young women is icky, some people think two dudes bumping uglies is icky, some people think incest is icky.

    just because you think something is icky, doesn't make it a valid reason to deny them rights.
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    Re: What is the primary reason behind your support for same-sex marriage? [W:539/549]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Basically correct. I beleive the number one thing that determines the gender of a child molested by a pedophile is access. SSM has nothing to do with pedophilia, nothing to do with incest, nothing to do with polygamy, nothing to do with bestiality. And yet those things are brought into every single thread on the topic. The issue is that there are no logical arguments against SSM, only emotional ones. Therefore the need for crappy debate tactics like trying to tie SSM with other, unrelated groups.
    and yet in every thread on SSM and "rights' someone always brings up slavery and racial equality. which has equally nothing to do with SSM as does incest, bestiality,polygamy etc. but no one ever sees you crying about that.
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    Re: What is the primary reason behind your support for same-sex marriage? [W:539/549]

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    and yet in every thread on SSM and "rights' someone always brings up slavery and racial equality. which has equally nothing to do with SSM as does incest, bestiality,polygamy etc. but no one ever sees you crying about that.
    Slightly different context. Nice try, but failed again.
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    Re: What is the primary reason behind your support for same-sex marriage? [W:539/549]

    Quote Originally Posted by Omgitsme View Post
    Its a requirement to signing a legal contract.
    Pssst animals cant sign either. And being 1 man and one woman is also a requirement in most states.

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    Re: What is the primary reason behind your support for same-sex marriage? [W:539/549]

    Quote Originally Posted by Rising Sun View Post
    Equal rights issue. Specifically 14th Amendment Equal Protection Clause and enlightened self-interest. If we let citizens be deprived of their rights due to religious reasons, bigotry or any other issue of prejudice, then we put our own liberties at risk.
    One more time there is no right to state marriage. Its a privilege

    So we shouldnt be prejudiced? If so we have mayhem and anarchy

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    Re: What is the primary reason behind your support for same-sex marriage? [W:539/549]

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Except in gay marriage gays aren't marrying young boys. Try to fail a less less epically next time.



    Because that would require some government program to ensure they don't have kids naturally. I'm pretty sure no one wants that level of intrusion, even the whacked out Social Conservatives.



    True, but incest concentrates genetic defects far more then regular mitosis creates them.





    So your solution is to bar the next generation from marrying their relatives? I'm just going to roll my eyes at you.
    Only because its against the law. NAMBLA is all for it

    Baloney. Sodomy laws are no longer needed as our gene pools are now so diluted theres very little chance of abnormalities.

    In the old days yes.

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