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  • Because itís an equal rights issue

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  • Because gays/lesbians love each other too

    8 4.71%
  • Because I despise bigots/haters

    2 1.18%
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    1 0.59%
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    14 8.24%
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    Re: What is the primary reason behind your support for same-sex marriage? [W:539/549]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gawain View Post
    I guess i cant eat animals then either or use them for transport or their fur lol. Since when do we need consent from an animal?
    yeah, I never got that one either. you can kill an animal and eat it or wear its skin and that is perfectly O.K. but if you **** it it's abuse because it can't give consent.
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    Re: What is the primary reason behind your support for same-sex marriage? [W:539/549]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gawain View Post
    I guess i cant eat animals then either or use them for transport or their fur lol. Since when do we need consent from an animal?
    Its a requirement to signing a legal contract.

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    Re: What is the primary reason behind your support for same-sex marriage? [W:539/549]

    Equal rights issue. Specifically 14th Amendment Equal Protection Clause and enlightened self-interest. If we let citizens be deprived of their rights due to religious reasons, bigotry or any other issue of prejudice, then we put our own liberties at risk.

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    Re: What is the primary reason behind your support for same-sex marriage? [W:539/549]

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    and the trouble is gay supporters still don't want it applied equally. oh they will squeal and bleat about "equal rights" until you bring up polygamy or incest and then suddenly it's a different story. they start grunting about "slippery slopes" and how it's equal rights when it comes to gay marriage but "new" rights when it comes to the other non-traditional groups.

    hypocrites.

    it should be none of the govt's or anyone else's business what consenting adults do with each other.

    if a gay dude wants to marry his brother. whatever
    if a straight dude wants to marry his sister. whatever
    if two black dudes want to marry a white chick. whatever
    if an asian dude wants to marry an eskimo and a bosnian. whatever

    as long as all parties involved are consenting adults, people should just STFU, mind their own business and let them get married.
    This has been repeated to you time and again. How the point has not sunk in is any one guess. No one is saying that equal rights in every situation for every single person is a goal. It's not. We have age of consent laws for very good reasons. All any one is saying is that you need a very good reason to deny people the right to do something. Polygamy and incest, being different than SSM, are judged differently. If a good reason to deny marriage for those can be raised that reaches the legal level, then there is nothing wrong with denying marriage to those things. There is however no rational basis to deny SSM. At least 2 people have explained this to you in this very thread, and yet you continue to repeat the same failed argument. I wonder why....
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    Re: What is the primary reason behind your support for same-sex marriage? [W:539/549]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    This has been repeated to you time and again. How the point has not sunk in is any one guess. No one is saying that equal rights in every situation for every single person is a goal. It's not. We have age of consent laws for very good reasons. All any one is saying is that you need a very good reason to deny people the right to do something. Polygamy and incest, being different than SSM, are judged differently. If a good reason to deny marriage for those can be raised that reaches the legal level, then there is nothing wrong with denying marriage to those things. There is however no rational basis to deny SSM. At least 2 people have explained this to you in this very thread, and yet you continue to repeat the same failed argument. I wonder why....
    and the hypocrite continues his attack. sad really. I agree with you on the issue of SSM and yet you still continue to attack me because I don't support it in exactly the manner you wish. I wonder why.....

    unlike you, my desire for equal rights are not limited only to people whose positions I agree with.
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    Re: What is the primary reason behind your support for same-sex marriage? [W:539/549]

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    and the hypocrite continues his attack. sad really. I agree with you on the issue of SSM and yet you still continue to attack me because I don't support it in exactly the manner you wish. I wonder why.....

    unlike you, my desire for equal rights are not limited only to people whose positions I agree with.
    Where did I limit my desire for rights to people I agree with? Oh wait, I didn't, you made that up. Society has always limited rights, and that is appropriate. Children have fewer rights than adults. Convicted felons have restrictions on rights. Even rights like free speech and freedom of religion have limits. This is not hypocrisy. There are clear cut reasons for those limitations. Saying that marriage shod be allowed, except when the state has a rational interest in not allowing it is not hypocrisy, and in fact is consistent and is exactly what our laws call for.

    I am sorry your failed example keeps failing. I am sorry your only argument is neither logical, consistent nor accurate. You might think about trying to find a working argument...but that would be hard.
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    Re: What is the primary reason behind your support for same-sex marriage? [W:539/549]

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    and gays have a long history of abusing young boys in truckstop restroom
    Except in gay marriage gays aren't marrying young boys. Try to fail a less less epically next time.

    why can't two related people get married and have kids the same way gay couples have kids?
    Because that would require some government program to ensure they don't have kids naturally. I'm pretty sure no one wants that level of intrusion, even the whacked out Social Conservatives.

    (and FWIW, there are countless genetic defects that can be passed along from non-related parents and no one is suggesting that we keep them from getting married)
    True, but incest concentrates genetic defects far more then regular mitosis creates them.

    IMHO, the inbreeding angle is just an excuse to keep from admitting an "ick" factor basis for arguing against relative marriages. and, for the most part, inbreeding only becomes a problem if it is continued for successive generations. being a country boy, i have seen dozens of animals procreate with siblings and parents without giving birth to tarded litters.
    So your solution is to bar the next generation from marrying their relatives? I'm just going to roll my eyes at you.
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    Re: What is the primary reason behind your support for same-sex marriage? [W:539/549]

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Except in gay marriage gays aren't marrying young boys.
    What you should have said is Republicans do it all the time.

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    Re: What is the primary reason behind your support for same-sex marriage? [W:539/549]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gawain View Post
    I guess i cant eat animals then either or use them for transport or their fur lol. Since when do we need consent from an animal?
    The very fact that you can eat an animal or use them for transport or use their fur without getting their legal consent to do so, proves that they do not have the equal rights as an adult human. They have no legal responsibility for themselves let alone being able to take some on for an adult human. They also cannot legally sign a contract.
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    Re: What is the primary reason behind your support for same-sex marriage? [W:539/549]

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Except in gay marriage gays aren't marrying young boys. Try to fail a less less epically next time.
    It is an even worse fail than that. Pedophiles tend to prefer the opposite sex, not the same sex, in adult relationships, and overwhelmingly so. The idea that gays prey on children is absolutely false. However, since Oscar's whole argument is trying to equate gays with other groups, he has to keep pushing these lies.
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