View Poll Results: What is the primary reason behind your support for same-sex marriage?

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  • Because Iím gay/lesbian

    3 1.76%
  • Because itís an equal rights issue

    93 54.71%
  • Because gays/lesbians love each other too

    8 4.71%
  • Because I despise bigots/haters

    2 1.18%
  • Because I donít want to be labeled a bigot

    1 0.59%
  • Iím opposed to gay marriage

    14 8.24%
  • I donít care, either way

    17 10.00%
  • Other

    32 18.82%
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    re: What is the primary reason behind your support for same-sex marriage? [W:539/549]

    Quote Originally Posted by 0bserver92 View Post
    One does not affect other people the other has the possibility of killing someone. Gay rights are an equality issue while gun control is not.

    Rights are rights. They exist or they do not. What type of rights they are is irrelevant. It would be like me saying Gun rights are Constitutional but gay rights are not.

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    re: What is the primary reason behind your support for same-sex marriage? [W:539/549]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    Rights are rights. They exist or they do not. What type of rights they are is irrelevant. It would be like me saying Gun rights are Constitutional but gay rights are not.
    Well same-sex marriage is an equality issue in most Western democracies now, gun rights are a U.S. only issue.

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    re: What is the primary reason behind your support for same-sex marriage? [W:539/549]

    Quote Originally Posted by 0bserver92 View Post
    Well same-sex marriage is an equality issue in most Western democracies now, gun rights are a U.S. only issue.
    Be that as it may, the law of the US is based upon the law of the US, not the law of Finland. Liberals in general do a piss poor job by my measure making Constitutional arguments and countering strict constructionist arguments, but it isn't that hard to do even if people do not agree with you.

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    re: What is the primary reason behind your support for same-sex marriage? [W:539/549]

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    thats not EQUAL rights that would be NEW rights. HUGE difference.
    funny that you keep ignoring the fact that, under current laws, marriage for gays is also a "new" right...since they don't currently have said right.
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    re: What is the primary reason behind your support for same-sex marriage? [W:539/549]

    Quote Originally Posted by 0bserver92 View Post
    Gay rights are an equality issue
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    but polygamist rights are not an equality issue?

    and you continue to wonder why people call you a hypocrite....
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    re: What is the primary reason behind your support for same-sex marriage? [W:539/549]

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    but polygamist rights are not an equality issue?

    and you continue to wonder why people call you a hypocrite....
    I support polygamous marriage to. Why should several people who love each other not be able to get married? I draw the line at incest and child marriage. I don't only draw the line but build a giant ****ing wall.

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    re: What is the primary reason behind your support for same-sex marriage? [W:539/549]

    Quote Originally Posted by 0bserver92 View Post
    I support polygamous marriage to. Why should several people who love each other not be able to get married? I draw the line at incest and child marriage. I don't only draw the line but build a giant ****ing wall.
    a child is not a consenting adult. two (or more) grown relatives are. I fail to see why two siblings marrying should be more distasteful than two men or two women marrying.

    IMHO it all comes down to your personal "ick" factor.
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    re: What is the primary reason behind your support for same-sex marriage? [W:539/549]

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    a child is not a consenting adult. two (or more) grown relatives are. I fail to see why two siblings marrying should be more distasteful than two men or two women marrying.

    IMHO it all comes down to your personal "ick" factor.
    No they can't consent but it still happens and I hope that society never goes to that corner of the darkness.
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    re: What is the primary reason behind your support for same-sex marriage? [W:539/549]

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    I support it because I, unlike many people in this nation, don't believe that I have a right to dictate how other consenting adults run their lives.
    This, plus I'm gay
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    re: What is the primary reason behind your support for same-sex marriage? [W:539/549]

    I strongly oppose, based on religious, scientific and philosophical arguments.

    The first is obvious, since I was raised Catholic.

    Second, you can run a simple experiment. Take random pairs of living creatures, give them a hotel room to go screw, and observe how many pregnancies result after a large number of trials. You have probably already inferred from observations that two opposite sex humans, regardless of race, are capable. Similarly, a beagle can procreate with a poodle of the opposite sex. However, a same sex pair or the girl crazy enough to test riding a horse the wrong way will result in absolutely zero kids. From this experiment, you can conclude that a penis was meant to be paired with a vagina and, moreover, within a species.

    Lastly, I like to commonly say people are getting so open-minded that their brains are starting to fall out. The words freedom and right are exaggerated. Many have started to notice the sense of entitlement growing in the minds of the younger generation, and it's not a side effect of the steroids put in the animals we eat. The more the rubber band gets stretched, the easier it will be to stretch until it breaks. Many have already made they point, if homosexuals want marriage then why can't the others have their desired polygamy? We've become a society like little kids crying when we see somebody else with something we don't have. The next time you're about to start complaining about the way something is, think about the reasoning behind why it is how it is. Occam's razor comes in handy. This is how you determine what is or is not meant to be changed.
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