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  • Because itís an equal rights issue

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  • Because gays/lesbians love each other too

    8 4.71%
  • Because I despise bigots/haters

    2 1.18%
  • Because I donít want to be labeled a bigot

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  • Iím opposed to gay marriage

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    re: What is the primary reason behind your support for same-sex marriage? [W:539/549]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Christians should be tolerant. Institutional discrimination is not tolerance. Did they learn nothing from Paul?
    I fully agree.I believe that a number of Christians need to stop believing that cChristianity and Christians have sole ownership and copyright of such things as "God","Morality",Love","Peace",Marriage", etc.

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    re: What is the primary reason behind your support for same-sex marriage? [W:539/549]

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    No, i just want to address this rationally. God is not cruel, He makes it possible to know Him through reason. One does not need to contravene reason to find God, quite the contrary. Reason is a gift from God and denying reason is as much a sin against Him as sex outside of wedlock.

    The only thing psalm 22 proves about the new testament is that the people who wrote the new testament had read psalm 22. Beyond that it is such weak evidence that it is embarrassing if that's all you've got to rely on.
    Dude, if someone doesn't claim Scripture divine, then fine... we can have the discussion about whether these things are coincidence or invented evidence. But you want a Christian to engage in discussion regarding whether their Holy Book is coincidence or fraud? C'mon. Right here and now?

    Fact is, all Christians believe Psalm 22 foreshadows Jesus and all Abrahamic religions believe it foreshadows a messiah (because it comes from David, regardless of other reasons).
    Last edited by ecofarm; 12-27-12 at 12:19 PM.

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    re: What is the primary reason behind your support for same-sex marriage? [W:539/549]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Dude, if someone doesn't claim Scripture divine, then fine... we can have the discussion about whether these things are coincidence or invented evidence. But you want a Christian to engage in discussion regarding whether their Holy Book is coincidence or fraudulent? C'mon. Right here and now?

    Fact is, all Christians believe Psalm 22 foreshadows Jesus and all Abrahamic religions believe it foreshadows a messiah (because it comes from David, regardless of other reasons).
    Wha does that have to do with anything? It doesn't refer to crucifixion, and it doesn't function as evidence of anything. As a prophecy, it is unimpressive, because it could just as easily be fulfilled through mundane means. It shouldn't be giving any rational person goosebumps.

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    re: What is the primary reason behind your support for same-sex marriage? [W:539/549]

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    Absolutely.

    Unfortunately I haven't had the opportunity to study those passages and in some cases the context of scriptures gives a better understanding. For example, some directives only apply during certain ceremonies or even a record of a conversation where someone was trying to deceive someone else. In such instances you can't decipher if verses of scripture are plucked out of the Bible and presented as stand alone statements.

    Nevertheless, there are not a few cases in the Bible where God just wants us to trust Him that he only tells us to do things that are in our best interest. If its in the Bible it must be there for a reason, even if I don't understand why. My job isn't to agree with God only after I've contemplated each leading He's given in the Bible and only follow the things I think are good ideas as if I'm smarter that God. Remember, every horrible thing that's ever happened in human history traces is origins to eating a seemingly harmless piece of fruit. What they didn't know was it apparently contained a poison that caused a mutation in those who consumed it as well as their offspring leading to sickness, death and causes us all become self-consumed and inconsiderate of others to varying degrees. It further seems once digested its adverse affects would spread to nearly all organic life on earth. He didn't go into detail as to why and it possibly made no sense in Adam and Eve. All He said was don't eat it because if you do you'll die. So yeah, if the Bible said don't wear mixed linen's and don't have a bar on your roof, its a sin absent some further contextual clarification.
    Well, I don't believe in the Bible literally, and am full aware that humans wrote, and put the thing together, based on oral stories, so there are going to be some mistakes. I'm not going to believe that something like wearing mixed linens is a sin because the old Jewish community's legal system was tied into their religion, so they placed their laws in their religious book. I believe we should take the essence of the Bible, peace, love, understanding, and forgiveness, and live by that, and not worry about if we're following these specific laws to the letter. That just seems silly to me.
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    re: What is the primary reason behind your support for same-sex marriage? [W:539/549]

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Wha does that have to do with anything? It doesn't refer to crucifixion, and it doesn't function as evidence of anything.
    If you'd like to argue that David did not knowlingly and intentionally foreshadow a messiah (divinely inspired or not), you'll lose - because he did, that's obvious to any and every Abrahamic scholar.
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    re: What is the primary reason behind your support for same-sex marriage? [W:539/549]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    If you'd like to argue that David did not knowlingly and intentionally foreshadow a messiah (divinely inspired or not), you'll lose - because he did, that's obvious to any and every Bible scholar.
    You are apparently not paying attention to what I'm saying. Nice troll, can't believe I fell for it.

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    re: What is the primary reason behind your support for same-sex marriage? [W:539/549]

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    I believe we should take the essence of the Bible, peace, love, understanding, and forgiveness, and live by that, and not worry about if we're following these specific laws to the letter.
    Keep preachin' the Gospel.

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    re: What is the primary reason behind your support for same-sex marriage? [W:539/549]

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I support SSM because I believe that gays, lesbians and bisexuals love each other with identical emotions that straight people have and that they should be allowed to legally wed.
    Yet same-sex couples don't share identical body functions that straight people have, therefore, they should not be allowed to legally wed.

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    re: What is the primary reason behind your support for same-sex marriage? [W:539/549]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    Yet same-sex couples don't share identical body functions that straight people have, therefore, they should not be allowed to legally wed.
    Before I suggest this is the dumbest reasoning I've heard to date, can you please explain in more detail exactly what on earth you mean here?

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    re: What is the primary reason behind your support for same-sex marriage? [W:539/549]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Before I suggest this is the dumbest reasoning I've heard to date, can you please explain in more detail exactly what on earth you mean here?
    Not before I suggest that you read the post I was responding to. His logic was flawed. There is zero proof that same-sex couples can love each other the EXACT same way heterosexual couples love each other. There's simply no way this is possible, as one major reason is that same-sex couples cannot create life together -- that is a bond they will never understand, and is a primary reason for marriage, in the first place.

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