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    Re: If we ban certain guns, criminals criminals who want them ...

    ...will still get them because banning them does not make them magically poof out of existence.
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    Re: If we ban certain guns, criminals criminals who want them ...

    no law will stop criminal activity.
    against the law to rob a bank. banks get robbed
    against the law to committ murder. people are murdered all the time.

    Ponit is, guns was just the tool used in some killings.

    We need to look deeper to the causes.

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    Re: If we ban certain guns, criminals criminals who want them ...

    A person isn't a criminal until he/she becomes one. Many shootings are emotion outbursts and opportunistic. "Crimes of passion." Also crimes of economic desperation. A person doesn't catch his woman with another man and says "you two stay right there while I go try to round up a gun" and a druggie without a dollar can't buy one. No child ever sought out a black market gun to accidently shoot himself or another kid.

    These absolute slogans - on both sides - just don't work. There is no utopia and there are no absolutes. The debate should be in terms of reality, not absolutist slogans.

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    Re: If we ban certain guns, criminals criminals who want them ...

    It would depend on how serious the law is with dealing with the black market.
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    Re: If we ban certain guns, criminals criminals who want them ...

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    It would depend on how serious the law is with dealing with the black market.
    If black markets were able to be regulated, they wouldn't be black markets.

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    Re: If we ban certain guns, criminals criminals who want them ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    If black markets were able to be regulated, they wouldn't be black markets.
    Nobody including me said a word about regulating anything. That implies a government hand on the tiller steering us through the waters.

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    Re: If we ban certain guns, criminals criminals who want them ...

    If certain guns are banned then the big concern isnt where criminals get them but what the laws will do to gun smiths. Personally I have a my own machine shop. I could build a automatic weapon pretty easily. And I am not even a gunsmith just a guy with a machine shop. The gun crowd are very friendly with their local gun smiths, they already convert weapons to fully automatic for their customers. There are gunsmith schools and countless machinists with the knowledge needed to build guns it would be impossible to stop firearms from being sold in a black market. In fact immediately after a gun ban was imposed the black market gun trade would explode. Think that it is hard to stop the black market drug trade? Just wait and see how the black market gun trade would go over even worse than prohibition on alcohol and other drugs.


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    Re: If we ban certain guns, criminals criminals who want them ...

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Nobody including me said a word about regulating anything.
    "It would depend on how serious the law is with dealing with the black market."

    when we pass "laws" to "deal" with something.. that is what is known as "regulating" it.

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