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    Re: Odds of a fiscal deal getting done

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I'm guessing they will vote to reduce the cuts. I mean both houses of Congress just voted for over $615 billion dollars of military spending next year. 90 Democrats opposed it, and zero Republicans opposed spending almost as much of the rest of the world combined on military.
    Yep. First they make a law/deal and then they quietly violate it. That was how "pay go" is handled; it is said that a "crisis" or "emergency" (such as the once every decade census) allows (requires?) a "waiver". We no longer even do "budgets" any more since Obama likes the "one time" TARP and Stimulus 1 federal spending level (2008/9 spending was 20% more than in 2007/8 spending) so that is simply carried forward by "continuing resolution". Neither the republicants nor the demorats will ever cut spending, since all federal spending has its fan club of campaign funders or voting blocks. The congress critters simply make deals; I'll allow your pork if you'll allow mine, I'll support your amendment if you'll support mine. USA, USA, USA...
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    Re: Odds of a fiscal deal getting done

    i'd put the probability at 98+ percent that they will at least punt it into next year. we aren't going over the cliff. if we did, the consequences would involve the careers of most of congress, and the legacy of Obama. my guess is that they won't let it happen. it's a lot easier to come up with some lukewarm compromise which doesn't really solve the problem but averts the immediate danger. that's what they'll do, and they'll pat themselves on the back heartily for doing so. this is the dramatic lead up portion of the narrative.

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    Re: Odds of a fiscal deal getting done

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    i'd put the probability at 98+ percent that they will at least punt it into next year. we aren't going over the cliff. if we did, the consequences would involve the careers of most of congress, and the legacy of Obama. my guess is that they won't let it happen. it's a lot easier to come up with some lukewarm compromise which doesn't really solve the problem but averts the immediate danger. that's what they'll do, and they'll pat themselves on the back heartily for doing so. this is the dramatic lead up portion of the narrative.
    Exactly. They'll keep passing the buck because that's all congress is good for. And the prez is a worthless figure head who does less than the queen of england.

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    Re: Odds of a fiscal deal getting done

    Last minute deal will be pushed through like always..


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    Re: Odds of a fiscal deal getting done

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    What are the odds that Congress will pass a deal to prevent the "fiscal cliff" by the end of the month that Obama will sign?
    None. Cantor just sent the GOP home for the year. Or that's what Pulse is saying.

    There will be no deal.

    A better question is how long will Boehner last as Speaker now that his own party is killing off his plans, even those that are little more then face savers?

    FYI: Now is good time to short stocks and prepare to load up on them after. Remember 2008? When the GOP said "F OFF" to the Bailout bill? Market took a massive dive. Then they reconsidered. Same thing is likely to happen here. We'll get a deal. In 2013.
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    Re: Odds of a fiscal deal getting done

    It will get done, maybe not before the doom date, both sides know americans are watching closely.

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    Re: Odds of a fiscal deal getting done

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    None. Cantor just sent the GOP home for the year. Or that's what Pulse is saying.

    There will be no deal.

    A better question is how long will Boehner last as Speaker now that his own party is killing off his plans, even those that are little more then face savers?

    FYI: Now is good time to short stocks and prepare to load up on them after. Remember 2008? When the GOP said "F OFF" to the Bailout bill? Market took a massive dive. Then they reconsidered. Same thing is likely to happen here. We'll get a deal. In 2013.
    I just read a posted link on another forum where boehner says he doesnt care about remaining speaker...that means to me that he either knows or believes he wont be around much longer...this is the guy that broke out in tears saying he finally achieved his dream..its not his fault the teaparty has him between a rock and hard place with the traditional gop...the party is fractured

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    Re: Odds of a fiscal deal getting done

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    I just read a posted link on another forum where boehner says he doesnt care about remaining speaker...that means to me that he either knows or believes he wont be around much longer...this is the guy that broke out in tears saying he finally achieved his dream..its not his fault the teaparty has him between a rock and hard place with the traditional gop...the party is fractured
    Boehner is a decent man in a bad job.

    Can you imagine Cantor as speaker? That man doesn't give a flying *&** about anyone but his financiers on Wall Street. If there was a poster child for Bought Politician, he'd be on it.
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    Re: Odds of a fiscal deal getting done

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Boehner is a decent man in a bad job.

    Can you imagine Cantor as speaker? That man doesn't give a flying *&** about anyone but his financiers on Wall Street. If there was a poster child for Bought Politician, he'd be on it.
    I cant stand cantor..he reeks of phony...boehner I agree isnt a bad guy and he tried to be reasonable the extremists wont allow it...boehner didnt fail... I dont think anyone would have been successful in his position.

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    Re: Odds of a fiscal deal getting done

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    I cant stand cantor..he reeks of phony...boehner I agree isnt a bad guy and he tried to be reasonable the extremists wont allow it...boehner didnt fail... I dont think anyone would have been successful in his position.
    Before the Tea Party Hijacking of the Republican Primaries, Boehner was relatively moderate, and even a leftist when you look at how far the GOP has moved to the right in the past 5 years.

    Electing Cantor as Speaker would be definitive proof the GOP doesn't give a **** about the American people.
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