View Poll Results: WHy Are the Dems now Pushing Severe Gun Restrictions

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  • Because of the School Massacre

    28 42.42%
  • Because Obama didn't want to lose the last election

    15 22.73%
  • Because the dems want to stick it to pro gun groups

    19 28.79%
  • Because the dems want to distract from the financial mess

    19 28.79%
  • Because they actually think it will decrease crime

    29 43.94%
  • Oher

    14 21.21%
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Thread: Why are the Dems NOW pushing for severe restrictions upon lawful gun owners

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    Re: Why are the Dems NOW pushing for severe restrictions upon lawful gun owners

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    And? It was an incompetent decision wasn't it? So when the court let's you get away with something it's fine? It doesn't call credibility into question at all? You're done man, you've got nothing.
    Right, all I've got behind me is the rule of law and the support of the majority of the country. Nothing compared to your personal opinion! LOL!
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    Re: Why are the Dems NOW pushing for severe restrictions upon lawful gun owners

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Right, all I've got behind me is the rule of law and the support of the majority of the country. Nothing compared to your personal opinion! LOL!
    Try again, the constitution is the supreme law of the land, justifying violating it doesn't win an argument for you. If you are proud of violating the law for your agenda whatever, but don't try to pass it off as legal. BTW, you do realize politicians who violate the constitution willingly can be impeached for perjury right?
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    Re: Why are the Dems NOW pushing for severe restrictions upon lawful gun owners

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Try again, the constitution is the supreme law of the land, justifying violating it doesn't win an argument for you. If you are proud of violating the law for your agenda whatever, but don't try to pass it off as legal. BTW, you do realize politicians who violate the constitution willingly can be impeached for perjury right?
    Under the rule of law, according to the Constitution, the courts are the only body with the authority to interpret the Constitution. You are not a believer in the rule of law?
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    Re: Why are the Dems NOW pushing for severe restrictions upon lawful gun owners

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Under the rule of law, according to the Constitution, the courts are the only body with the authority to interpret the Constitution. You are not a believer in the rule of law?
    Nope, sorry. The courts decided they had final authority in Marbury v. Madison and it was not challenged by Congress or the executive. Give up, until that decision SCOTUS rulings were less binding.
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    Re: Why are the Dems NOW pushing for severe restrictions upon lawful gun owners

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Nope, sorry. The courts decided they had final authority in Marbury v. Madison and it was not challenged by Congress or the executive. Give up, until that decision SCOTUS rulings were less binding.
    Hate to break it to you but that was done under the rule of law, and it has never been successfully challenged since 1803. You are confusing what you personally would prefer the rule of law to be, rather than what it actually is.
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    Re: Why are the Dems NOW pushing for severe restrictions upon lawful gun owners

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Hate to break it to you but that was done under the rule of law, and it has never been successfully challenged since 1803. You are confusing what you personally would prefer the rule of law to be, rather than what it actually is.
    Hate to break it to ya, but no, the non challenge was the only thing that kept that decision final, the executive and legislative abdicated final say to SCOTUS. You have no clue what you are speaking of. You didn't answer the perjury challenge BTW.
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    Re: Why are the Dems NOW pushing for severe restrictions upon lawful gun owners

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Hate to break it to ya, but no, the non challenge was the only thing that kept that decision final, the executive and legislative abdicated final say to SCOTUS. You have no clue what you are speaking of. You didn't answer the perjury challenge BTW.
    Zero challenges in over 200 years should clue you in on how many share your opinion.
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    Re: Why are the Dems NOW pushing for severe restrictions upon lawful gun owners

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Zero challenges in over 200 years should clue you in on how many share your opinion.
    Ah, appeal to popularity fallacy. Pathetic.
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    Re: Why are the Dems NOW pushing for severe restrictions upon lawful gun owners

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Ah, appeal to popularity fallacy. Pathetic.
    What you call an appeal to popularity fallacy is what the rest of us call the rule of law.
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    Re: Why are the Dems NOW pushing for severe restrictions upon lawful gun owners

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    What you call an appeal to popularity fallacy is what the rest of us call the rule of law.
    Uh, no. Laws not based upon proper constitutional authority are illegal, doesn't matter how many people agree. Read the founding writings instead of going with whatever the Dems are handing you.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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