View Poll Results: WHy Are the Dems now Pushing Severe Gun Restrictions

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  • Because of the School Massacre

    28 42.42%
  • Because Obama didn't want to lose the last election

    15 22.73%
  • Because the dems want to stick it to pro gun groups

    19 28.79%
  • Because the dems want to distract from the financial mess

    19 28.79%
  • Because they actually think it will decrease crime

    29 43.94%
  • Oher

    14 21.21%
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    Re: Why are the Dems NOW pushing for severe restrictions upon lawful gun owners

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    Well who made laws against tobacco companies? I'm sure the recent tragedy is a catalyst to enforce stricter laws and why shouldn't it be? What specific reason do you need to have extended clips or semi automatics? Also I've been out of the loop due to family and having a life, what are the dems specifically saying now OG?
    What specific reason do you need to have gay homo butt sex?

    EDIT:... I don't mean you, specifically.... but in general.
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Why are the Dems NOW pushing for severe restrictions upon lawful gun owners

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    Well who made laws against tobacco companies? I'm sure the recent tragedy is a catalyst to enforce stricter laws and why shouldn't it be? What specific reason do you need to have extended clips or semi automatics? Also I've been out of the loop due to family and having a life, what are the dems specifically saying now OG?
    I asked the same question. This was the response from TurtleDude:

    Yesterday, 08:52 PM
    Thread: ABC and the War on gun rights
    by TurtleDude

    Re: ABC and the War on gun rights

    TurtleDude - "I noted dozens of times that the idiotic gun ban cost competitive shooters lots of money because we tend to go through magazines far quicker than casual shooters and replacing them went from 20 bucks a magazine to over 100"

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/bias-m...post1061276532
    Last edited by Catawba; 12-22-12 at 04:35 AM.
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    Re: Why are the Dems NOW pushing for severe restrictions upon lawful gun owners

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Then start making this argument as responsible gun control, as a way to go forward with an alternate solution than just banning or restricting firearms based on just what kind of firearm or what features it has.
    I find it pretty crazy, that I have to make the argument that the government should enforce the laws on the books.
    That's their job, they're supposed to do that.

    Yet we have people here, that are pretty ignorant on the regulations and laws in existence, proposing new laws.
    Instead of me, asking the gov to do it's job, why don't those who don't know jack crap about guns laws, first learn what laws actually exist.
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    Re: Why are the Dems NOW pushing for severe restrictions upon lawful gun owners

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Is it the massacre or is it political expediency or just plain pandering
    It's very telling that you didn't check "because of the school massacre" in your poll, TD.....whereas you did for all the other so called options. Nah, you don't have an agenda to stick it to the gun control crowd at the expense of innocent lives.

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    Re: Why are the Dems NOW pushing for severe restrictions upon lawful gun owners

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    It's very telling that you didn't check "because of the school massacre" in your poll, TD.....whereas you did for all the other so called options. Nah, you don't have an agenda to stick it to the gun control crowd at the expense of innocent lives.
    Prove innocent lives will be costed..... yawn.......
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Why are the Dems NOW pushing for severe restrictions upon lawful gun owners

    Its NOT just "now", the Democrats have been pushing for gun control legislation for many years, even decades. The conservatives , as we all know, oppose them, just as the NRA tells them to. Maybe something will finally get done as the cons die off - the only way they can "change" their so-called minds.

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    Re: Why are the Dems NOW pushing for severe restrictions upon lawful gun owners

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    What specific reason do you need to have gay homo butt sex?

    EDIT:... I don't mean you, specifically.... but in general.
    This should be an adults only discussion, we do not need children of any age here.
    Having said this, does it make me feel better..
    NO
    I am tempted to think that we have a sick society..

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    Re: Why are the Dems NOW pushing for severe restrictions upon lawful gun owners

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    This should be an adults only discussion, we do not need children of any age here.
    Having said this, does it make me feel better..
    NO
    I am tempted to think that we have a sick society..
    So, no answer as to why someone needs to have gay homo butt sex?

    Hint: The answer to that question and the answer to the specific reason why someone "needs to have" semi automatic and automatic weapons are one in the same.
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Why are the Dems NOW pushing for severe restrictions upon lawful gun owners

    They aren't pushing it, the American people are pushing it. The Democrats are just doing what representatives are supposed to do, representing the people.
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    Re: Why are the Dems NOW pushing for severe restrictions upon lawful gun owners

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    What specific reason do you need to have gay homo butt sex?

    EDIT:... I don't mean you, specifically.... but in general.
    Sodomy actually is illegal in some states, but not enforced regularly. The laws are still on the books, they were written as moral codes prohibiting "unnatural sex acts" but really were nothing more than laws put on the books to harrass homosexuals. I don't agree with laws barring consentual sex acts among consenting adults, but they have more constitutional standing than many gun laws on the books. I keep telling people they need to drop assaults on the bill of rights, because when that goes they will have laws against something that matters to them eventually, like soda bans/limits, prohibition of behaviors they enjoy that hurt no one, etc.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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