View Poll Results: WHy Are the Dems now Pushing Severe Gun Restrictions

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  • Because of the School Massacre

    28 42.42%
  • Because Obama didn't want to lose the last election

    15 22.73%
  • Because the dems want to stick it to pro gun groups

    19 28.79%
  • Because the dems want to distract from the financial mess

    19 28.79%
  • Because they actually think it will decrease crime

    29 43.94%
  • Oher

    14 21.21%
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    Re: Why are the Dems NOW pushing for severe restrictions upon lawful gun owners

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    And how has that been working out for America compared to other wealthy nations?
    well, our crime rate has been decreasing, their's going up

    but that is a dishonest comment

    the only issue is whether your desire to hassle honest gun owners will decrease crime

    there is no evidence it will but you don't care

    crime control plays no role in what motivates your jihad against our rights

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    Re: Why are the Dems NOW pushing for severe restrictions upon lawful gun owners

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    we already have plenty of gun control laws

    sensible laws mean punishing misuse of guns

    not punishing people who don't misuse guns

    clue to everyone

    its already illegal to possess a gun for the purpose of using it to murder people
    I'm talking about cracking down on legal gun dealers who sell their product illegally, it doesn't necessarily mean more laws and I didn't say we needed more without a doubt, I don't know why you keep saying that in response to my posts.

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    Re: Why are the Dems NOW pushing for severe restrictions upon lawful gun owners

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    I'm talking about cracking down on legal gun dealers who sell their product illegally, it doesn't necessarily mean more laws and I didn't say we needed more without a doubt, I don't know why you keep saying that in response to my posts.
    all in favor of that, and the ATF has all the tools to do that

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    Re: Why are the Dems NOW pushing for severe restrictions upon lawful gun owners

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    well, our crime rate has been decreasing, their's going up

    Did you forget already what you said just two posts back? "its already illegal to possess a gun for the purpose of using it to murder people" You were talking about murder by guns, not just crime rates in general.

    So how does the murder rate by guns in the US compare to other wealthy countries?



    the only issue is whether your desire to hassle honest gun owners will decrease crime
    The proposals made so far create no hardship for responsible gun owners.
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    Re: Why are the Dems NOW pushing for severe restrictions upon lawful gun owners

    BAN 'GUN FREE' Zones

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    I Have A Real Nasty Looking .44

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    Re: Why are the Dems NOW pushing for severe restrictions upon lawful gun owners

    One Doesn't Really Need A Concealed Carry

    In Many Places, Open Carry
    Is Perfectly Lawful

    But The Cops Will Run In To Shake You Down

    And Bystanders Will Give You Grief

    Go Figure
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    Re: Why are the Dems NOW pushing for severe restrictions upon lawful gun owners

    Quote Originally Posted by karpenter View Post
    BAN 'GUN FREE' Zones

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    "Mother Jones has made a persuasive case that arming civilians does little to stop mass shooters, and even cops can't stop every shooting. Columbine High School had an armed security officer on campus at the time of the 1999 shooting that killed 13 people. He even exchanged gunfire with one of the killers. Neither one of them was hit."

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    Re: Why are the Dems NOW pushing for severe restrictions upon lawful gun owners

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post

    If you do like the idea of gun control, than this tragedy is finally the wake up call the government and people needed to finally take some real action against a serious problem.
    Yep..... After having to sit through 9 shootings in 2012 and getting ignored every time by the general public....... they finally think they got enough people's attention with their 96 hours straight coverage to move forward with what they wanted to do all year.

    They didn't realize it would take them a years worth of shootings to get the attention though.....
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    Re: Why are the Dems NOW pushing for severe restrictions upon lawful gun owners

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    "Mother Jones has made a persuasive case that arming civilians does little to stop mass shooters, and even cops can't stop every shooting. Columbine High School had an armed security officer on campus at the time of the 1999 shooting that killed 13 people. He even exchanged gunfire with one of the killers. Neither one of them was hit."

    Fact-Checking the NRA Press Conference - National - The Atlantic Wire

    Upholding the right of the people to have privacy does little in preventing rapes............

    Aww **** it.... lets allow 24/7 monitoring of our private spaces by the government... I mean... if it prevents just ONE rape.... isn't it worth it?
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Why are the Dems NOW pushing for severe restrictions upon lawful gun owners

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Is it the massacre or is it political expediency or just plain pandering
    Well who made laws against tobacco companies? I'm sure the recent tragedy is a catalyst to enforce stricter laws and why shouldn't it be? What specific reason do you need to have extended clips or semi automatics? Also I've been out of the loop due to family and having a life, what are the dems specifically saying now OG?
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