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    Re: Do You Think That Violent Video Games/ Movies Are An Issue

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    I agree with the bolded, which is why I said *some* kids, because I don't believe that all kids will be screwed up by playing video games. To me, the problem is that kids like the one who killed the school children, are already isolated, and aren't interacting with other people to help keep one foot in reality.
    Agreed, but I'm not sure what we do about that, which will:

    1. Actually have a positive effect, and
    2. Not impose an undue burden on the innocent, (ie 99.9% of us).

    Violent video games already come with warning labels for parents, and most game stores will not sell them to minors without a parent present to affirm it is okay.

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    Re: Do You Think That Violent Video Games/ Movies Are An Issue

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I would not agree its had no effect on you and others, I believe it makes you more accepting of violence in our society.
    Do you have any proof at all of this, I despise violence and guns. I am anti-gun, and believe that violence is only acceptable when all diplomatic channels have failed.

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    Re: Do You Think That Violent Video Games/ Movies Are An Issue

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I would not agree its had no effect on you and others, I believe it makes you more accepting of violence in our society.
    That would be my concern as well. Growing up in a hunting culture, kids learn that guns do kill, and they (hopefully) learn a little about the seriousness of using firearms. When you can play video games, where you are shooting human figures, and you get the reinforcement of sound and visual effects, but don't have to actually associate your own actions with a real consequence, I just think it causes some inability to understand the seriousness of shooting.
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    Re: Do You Think That Violent Video Games/ Movies Are An Issue

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Agreed, but I'm not sure what we do about that, which will:

    1. Actually have a positive effect, and
    2. Not impose an undue burden on the innocent, (ie 99.9% of us).

    Violent video games already come with warning labels for parents, and most game stores will not sell them to minors without a parent present to affirm it is okay.
    I'm not really proposing that we do anything about it- just stating that I think it may be a problem.
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    Re: Do You Think That Violent Video Games/ Movies Are An Issue

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I would not agree its had no effect on you and others, I believe it makes you more accepting of violence in our society.
    I disagree as knowing what is real and what is entertainment is not difficult for normal people to discern. Awareness of forced sex and violence should not, in any way, make you wish to immitate or accept those actions. If that were true then all remaining native Americans would likely be long gone by now, due to the intense popularity of westerns.
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    Re: Do You Think That Violent Video Games/ Movies Are An Issue

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    I don't think any MENTALLY NORMAL person will, simply by playing Call of Duty or Left 4 Dead or other violent video game, decide on that basis to go out and kill a bunch of innocent people at random.


    A mentally ABNORMAL person may become fixated on ANYTHING, and not have the ability to distinguish between reality and fantasy, right and wrong... in which case the video game is not the causal agent, the mental illness is the cause.
    I'm not certain, Gosh, when we talk about kids growing up on violent video games. I think video games may in some way dehumanize violence and the consequences of violence.










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    Re: Do You Think That Violent Video Games/ Movies Are An Issue

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    That would be my concern as well. Growing up in a hunting culture, kids learn that guns do kill, and they (hopefully) learn a little about the seriousness of using firearms. When you can play video games, where you are shooting human figures, and you get the reinforcement of sound and visual effects, but don't have to actually associate your own actions with a real consequence, I just think it causes some inability to understand the seriousness of shooting.
    Actually you can by how people play games that isn't the case. In some games they give you a chance to choose between a good or evil path. An overwhelming majority take the good path as that is what they see as morally acceptable and feel guilt if they take the veil path, others and myself have felt guilt after performing an "evil" action. Games don't change people.

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    Re: Do You Think That Violent Video Games/ Movies Are An Issue

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    A few years ago, I would have said no. For the past couple of years, I'm seriously starting to wonder if violence in video games is having a detrimental effect on some kids, because they get so wrapped up in them, that it may become an alternate reality, of sorts, especially when they spend so much time alone, and interacting with a computer.
    Before video games though, these same kids would be out torturing squirrels... the issue is the person. It is like guns. Guns are not the issue, the person is.
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    Re: Do You Think That Violent Video Games/ Movies Are An Issue

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    That would be my concern as well. Growing up in a hunting culture, kids learn that guns do kill, and they (hopefully) learn a little about the seriousness of using firearms. When you can play video games, where you are shooting human figures, and you get the reinforcement of sound and visual effects, but don't have to actually associate your own actions with a real consequence, I just think it causes some inability to understand the seriousness of shooting.

    I would agree with that except for the first part, at least for the majority of kids today that don't grow up in a hunting culture, that grow up in an urban environment.
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    Re: Do You Think That Violent Video Games/ Movies Are An Issue

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Based on what? The CT shooter came from extreme wealth, hardly an "access" problem. I think more it is denial to admit that your kin may be seen as "defective".

    Something like this "logic": Little Johnny is a bit odd, he pulls the legs off of grasshoppers and has no friends that like to play with him, but he will "grow out of it" OK - no sense in marring his "permanent record" with all of that psycho-babble, or trying to drug him into "normality".
    whatever treatment he received was obviously inadequate. all the more reason to change the culture and to increase general access to more effective care.

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