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    Re: Do You Think That Violent Video Games/ Movies Are An Issue

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    Probably "other".
    This depends on the mental age of the player, ect...
    There must be within these "games" some kind of positive message, perhaps hidden......crime does not pay as an example..
    In a vast majority of movies that I watch (usually 50-100 years old) there is this message.. But todays movies, I know not about.
    Thats because somewhere around the 1970s, acting and real story telling got thrown out in favor of unrealistic "action scenes" and special affects.

    Or as I usually put it, John Wayne died and Clint Eastwood started making "chick flicks".
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    Re: Do You Think That Violent Video Games/ Movies Are An Issue

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    I believe violent video games and media serves as a negative influence, and has increasingly influenced our society in negatives. It's not surprising that many people have become desensitized to violence and gore. Just think of that espicable movie, Hostel and the rest of that trash. They're catalysts that affect the mind which already has "cracks" in it. Or from a totally different perspective... we're animals that're trying to act like something we're not.... violence and destruction is normal for animals.
    Uh. Fail.

    First, there has been no such link to be conclusively established. Anybody who could be set off by something as simple as a movie already had serious issues to begin with.

    Second, humans are by definition animals.

    Third, what's the solution? Restrict or ban violent movies simply because they might allegedly set off a tiny fraction of people?
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    Re: Do You Think That Violent Video Games/ Movies Are An Issue

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    First, there has been no such link to be conclusively established. Anybody who could be set off by something as simple as a movie already had serious issues to begin with.
    I really don't care whether a "link" has been conclusively established. It's my opinion that very violent and gory video games and media are 1) a way to desensitize people to violence and gore and 2) they serve as catalysts by negatively affecting the mind of those more prone to such behavior.

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Second, humans are by definition animals.
    Which is not something I've disagreed with.

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    Third, what's the solution? Restrict or ban violent movies simply because they might allegedly set off a tiny fraction of people?
    You seem to want a major answer rather quickly, when I'm merely voicing my opinion. Now, I'd like to see less of our youth viewing these trashy sources of violence, but I'm fairly certain that won't be happening any time soon. I believe all of the violence, gore, and barbarism is a negative to society.

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    Re: Do You Think That Violent Video Games/ Movies Are An Issue

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    I really don't care whether a "link" has been conclusively established. It's my opinion that very violent and gory video games and media are 1) a way to desensitize people to violence and gore and 2) they serve as catalysts by negatively affecting the mind of those more prone to such behavior.
    And the burden is on you to show it. We need strong evidence, not just hunches.

    Which is not something I've disagreed with.

    You seem to want a major answer rather quickly, when I'm merely voicing my opinion. Now, I'd like to see less of our youth viewing these trashy sources of violence, but I'm fairly certain that won't be happening any time soon. I believe all of the violence, gore, and barbarism is a negative to society.
    That's your view and you're entitled to it. Nobody is forcing you to watch R-rated movies. But if you believe that everyone should follow these beliefs, then you're forcing your beliefs on others. Before you may do that, you must provide a strong case to justify that.
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    Re: Do You Think That Violent Video Games/ Movies Are An Issue

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    And the burden is on you to show it. We need strong evidence, not just hunches.



    That's your view and you're entitled to it. Nobody is forcing you to watch R-rated movies. But if you believe that everyone should follow these beliefs, then you're forcing your beliefs on others. Before you may do that, you must provide a strong case to justify that.
    This isn't court, and I'm under no obligation to provide scientific proof when sharing an opinion.

    Forcing my beliefs on others is using the law/whatever else to force it on others. Stating my belief on a Debate and Discussion forum is in absolutely no way "forcing" my beliefs on others. If you don't like a person's opinion, that's alright. Relax. This is a place not only for civil debate, but civil discussion.

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    Re: Do You Think That Violent Video Games/ Movies Are An Issue

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    This isn't court, and I'm under no obligation to provide scientific proof when sharing an opinion.

    Forcing my beliefs on others is using the law/whatever else to force it on others. Stating my belief on a Debate and Discussion forum is in absolutely no way "forcing" my beliefs on others. If you don't like a person's opinion, that's alright. Relax. This is a place not only for civil debate, but civil discussion.
    Now wait a minute. Are you saying that you personally won't be watching violent movies? If so, then that's just your personal decision and there's nothing wrong with it. But if you're saying that others should follow along with your beliefs, then yes, whether you realize it or not, you support forcing your beliefs on others.

    Don't worry; I'm not upset. I'm just debating.
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    Re: Do You Think That Violent Video Games/ Movies Are An Issue

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Now wait a minute. Are you saying that you personally won't be watching violent movies? If so, then that's just your personal decision and there's nothing wrong with it. But if you're saying that others should follow along with your beliefs, then yes, whether you realize it or not, you support forcing your beliefs on others.

    Don't worry; I'm not upset. I'm just debating.
    Interesting.

    ...the problem with your assertion comes down to a basic failure in reasoning. You think that if I opine that watching violent video and playing violent games influences people in negative ways... I'm forcing my beliefs on others. Would you please show me the logic in how stating my belief is the same thing as forcing others to bend to my will? The reason your reasoning is faulty is that merely voicing an opinion or a belief isn't forcing anyone else to do anything. For example, if I say I dislike fast food, or that I believe fast food is a bad thing for our bodies, am I forcing people to bend to my beliefs? Aren't we here not just to debate, but to give voice to and share our opinions and beliefs? An opinion, a belief... can never be seen as a weapon to force others.... and deep down I think you already know this. Now, I can help you if you want, but it will take some effort on your part. First you must accept that within an online community, and that like it or not people will state their beliefs in order to share them with everyone else. Secondly, after you understand that, you should lower your sensitivity to the existence of other beliefs being vocalized in a civil and respectful manner. After that, then simply go with the flow, enjoy the varying perspectives and understandings, and learn. I'm relatively certain that once you adopt steps 1 & 2, you'll become a far more flexible and less dogmatic person, who will no longer see debate as some rigid battle, but an enjoyable mental exercise in learning.

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    Re: Do You Think That Violent Video Games/ Movies Are An Issue

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Interesting.

    ...the problem with your assertion comes down to a basic failure in reasoning. You think that if I opine that watching violent video and playing violent games influences people in negative ways... I'm forcing my beliefs on others. Would you please show me the logic in how stating my belief is the same thing as forcing others to bend to my will? The reason your reasoning is faulty is that merely voicing an opinion or a belief isn't forcing anyone else to do anything. For example, if I say I dislike fast food, or that I believe fast food is a bad thing for our bodies, am I forcing people to bend to my beliefs? Aren't we here not just to debate, but to give voice to and share our opinions and beliefs? An opinion, a belief... can never be seen as a weapon to force others.... and deep down I think you already know this. Now, I can help you if you want, but it will take some effort on your part. First you must accept that within an online community, and that like it or not people will state their beliefs in order to share them with everyone else. Secondly, after you understand that, you should lower your sensitivity to the existence of other beliefs being vocalized in a civil and respectful manner. After that, then simply go with the flow, enjoy the varying perspectives and understandings, and learn. I'm relatively certain that once you adopt steps 1 & 2, you'll become a far more flexible and less dogmatic person, who will no longer see debate as some rigid battle, but an enjoyable mental exercise in learning.
    Uhhh...oookkkaaayyy...

    But w/e. To each his own. Anyway, I need to go watch Kill Bill now.
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    Re: Do You Think That Violent Video Games/ Movies Are An Issue

    Restricting guns OR violent video games aren't the answer! We need to educate others about unacceptable behavior like shooting an entire crowd. People kill people, how you may ask? A government that neglects them and only makes things worse!

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    Re: Do You Think That Violent Video Games/ Movies Are An Issue

    Quote Originally Posted by Nordenkalt444 View Post
    Restricting guns OR violent video games aren't the answer! We need to educate others about unacceptable behavior like shooting an entire crowd. People kill people, how you may ask? A government that neglects them and only makes things worse!
    Yep. Like say politician that worry more about popularity than about actual solutions. After all, if they do what actually works but don't get re-elected, how could they ever survive in a real job market?
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