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    Re: Do You Think That Violent Video Games/ Movies Are An Issue

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Here is something to consider. Contrast the viewpoints of those that INSIST there is no causative link of violence and violent media to their positions on firearms and how quickly they blame the evil gun for causing people to kill. So a videogame that has you running around killing people...meh...no big deal. But the inanimate object...it taaaaaaaalks to you...
    Here is something to consider. Contrast the viewpoint of those that INSIST on attacking those suggesting that the "gun culture" and spread help cause these types of massacres, stating that "guns don't kill people, PEOPLE kill people" but are quick to attack Video Games and Violent Media as as blame for people taking such action. So a person using a gun to kill someone means the person killed people, not the guns. But a person played GTA and kills people, OMG GTA IS RUINING OUR YOUTHS MINDS! (lets not bother with the question of why the parents are letting their child who can't handle the reality of the situation play GTA. That'd be too difficult plus that parent may be pro-2nd amendment, and we can't criticize our own side!)

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    Re: Do You Think That Violent Video Games/ Movies Are An Issue

    Advertisers pay billions of dollars to get their message on TV because we believe people are influenced by what they see.

    Why would the same NOT be true for violence as well with some people?
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    Re: Do You Think That Violent Video Games/ Movies Are An Issue

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Advertisers pay billions of dollars to get their message on TV because we believe people are influenced by what they see.

    Why would the same NOT be true for violence as well with some people?
    Mainly because video games and movies take place in an alternate reality. Mentally sane people can differentiate between that universe and real life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0bserver92 View Post
    Mainly because video games and movies take place in an alternate reality. Mentally sane people can differentiate between that universe and real life.
    Do you believe that there is some definitive unbreachable and unchanging wall between people who are either sane/mentally healthy/socially adjusted or not any of those things?
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    Re: Do You Think That Violent Video Games/ Movies Are An Issue

    Quote Originally Posted by 0bserver92 View Post
    Mainly because video games and movies take place in an alternate reality. Mentally sane people can differentiate between that universe and real life.
    I would add the mentally mature also. I do believe that many forms of media can be harmful to the immature developing brain that has not yet developed a strong understanding of the relationship between reality and fantasy media. But some it could also be parents/guardians using what a child wants to entertain them so that child doesn't bother them instead of taking the time with the child to develop that understanding.

    So, IMO, bad parenting has as much of an affect as the media itself, possibly more.
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    Re: Do You Think That Violent Video Games/ Movies Are An Issue

    Canadian kids play video games and watch violent movies just like american kids.

    But mass shootings in Canada are very rare. Is it because of the water, or is it because of gun control? You can legally buy a gun in canada but only after criminal and mental health checks are complete. You can't buy one from a "gun" show cash and carry. You can't buy semi auto or automatic weapons nor large capacity magazines.

    With 300 million guns in the US (at least) and all kinds of assault weapons and large capacity mags, I think the number of mass shootings is facilitated by access to the type of guns that enable such horrific events. Its simply a numbers game a tiny tiny number of nutbars in an environment overflowing with guns. Surely it makes sense to at least control the types of guns available and the type of individual that can obtain them and still uphold the second amendment.
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    Re: Do You Think That Violent Video Games/ Movies Are An Issue

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Do you believe that there is some definitive unbreachable and unchanging wall between people who are either sane/mentally healthy/socially adjusted or not any of those things?
    Yes, if you are sane you have no trouble differentiating between fantasy and reality while if you have trouble differentiating between fantasy and reality you are insane.

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    Re: Do You Think That Violent Video Games/ Movies Are An Issue

    Quote Originally Posted by Jonsa View Post
    Canadian kids play video games and watch violent movies just like american kids.

    But mass shootings in Canada are very rare. Is it because of the water, or is it because of gun control? You can legally buy a gun in canada but only after criminal and mental health checks are complete. You can't buy one from a "gun" show cash and carry. You can't buy semi auto or automatic weapons nor large capacity magazines.

    With 300 million guns in the US (at least) and all kinds of assault weapons and large capacity mags, I think the number of mass shootings is facilitated by access to the type of guns that enable such horrific events. Its simply a numbers game a tiny tiny number of nutbars in an environment overflowing with guns. Surely it makes sense to at least control the types of guns available and the type of individual that can obtain them and still uphold the second amendment.

    Candian gun laws are different (privilege vs. right) but hardly as strict as you have described them:

    Global Edmonton | Gun laws not necessarily solution to gun violence: Canadian lawyer

    Canada: Gun Laws To Be Eased
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    Re: Do You Think That Violent Video Games/ Movies Are An Issue

    Quote Originally Posted by 0bserver92 View Post
    Yes, if you are sane you have no trouble differentiating between fantasy and reality while if you have trouble differentiating between fantasy and reality you are insane.
    I am sorry but I must disagree with that. For many people, YES, what you describe is true. For many others, people struggle with control and can drift back and forth between lucidity and fantasy depending on stress, triggers, environment, events and all sorts of other factors.

    To pretend that all people are either well and sane or mentally ill and insane is far too of a black and white all or nothing approach that defies human experience and what we know about human psychology.
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    Re: Do You Think That Violent Video Games/ Movies Are An Issue

    Quote Originally Posted by Jonsa View Post
    Canadian kids play video games and watch violent movies just like american kids.

    But mass shootings in Canada are very rare. Is it because of the water, or is it because of gun control? You can legally buy a gun in canada but only after criminal and mental health checks are complete. You can't buy one from a "gun" show cash and carry. You can't buy semi auto or automatic weapons nor large capacity magazines.

    With 300 million guns in the US (at least) and all kinds of assault weapons and large capacity mags, I think the number of mass shootings is facilitated by access to the type of guns that enable such horrific events. Its simply a numbers game a tiny tiny number of nutbars in an environment overflowing with guns. Surely it makes sense to at least control the types of guns available and the type of individual that can obtain them and still uphold the second amendment.
    Guns are being discussed in another thread. But by your post, I have the impression that you believe that they are the only issue.

    Is it an either or issue, guns vs media? Or are there a myriad of other factors issues also involved?

    Several threads have been started to address the recent tragedy/ies. Mental Health, guns and violent media have all come to the forward. But I have to question whether these are the only issues involved or are people looking for a simplistic answer to address a very complicated issue? I don't believe there is a central single issue or a simplistic answer. I think we need to fully comprehend all factors and issues, not just one or two, before a working, workable, comprehensive corrective action can be taken.
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