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    Re: Do You Think That Violent Video Games/ Movies Are An Issue

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Not at all the case. Numerous people have cited guns killing people-hell...many on this site have been doing it. Bob Costas went on national TV talking about how guns make young black men into thugs and murderers. People ROUTINELY blame the gun, and not the individual.
    Well, Costas is a genuis... he knows what most of us don't. That removal of guns would be an end to thugery and killing.
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    Re: Do You Think That Violent Video Games/ Movies Are An Issue

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    It is not even close to being real violence though. SO your point is mute.
    You think that THAT will shut him up?

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    Do You Think That Violent Video Games/ Movies Are An Issue

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Not at all the case. Numerous people have cited guns killing people-hell...many on this site have been doing it. Bob Costas went on national TV talking about how guns make young black men into thugs and murderers. People ROUTINELY blame the gun, and not the individual.
    I'm not really buying it (Bob Costas aside - I have no idea what his deal is). When most people are referring to guns killing people, they most likely mean it the way I suggested in my last post. I'm sure there are counter examples, but if I were you, I'd avoid considering them to be representative.

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    Do You Think That Violent Video Games/ Movies Are An Issue

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post

    The fact that people can play violent video games in other cultures an have no ill effect upon society means nothing to its effects in other cultures.
    What it means is that the underlying problem is cultural, and not directly a result of the thing itself. It means that you're focusing on the wrong boogeyman. Of course in this case you could also look at the numerous studies done on this issue and discover that there's no demonstrated causal link between video games and violence in this culture either.

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    Re: Do You Think That Violent Video Games/ Movies Are An Issue

    Quote Originally Posted by Aderleth View Post
    What it means is that the underlying problem is cultural, and not directly a result of the thing itself. It means that you're focusing on the wrong boogeyman. Of course in this case you could also look at the numerous studies done on this issue and discover that there's no demonstrated causal link between video games and violence in this culture either.

    and what does the real boogeyman look like?
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    Do You Think That Violent Video Games/ Movies Are An Issue

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    and what does the real boogeyman look like?
    That's an excellent question. Anyone who claims to have a clear answer is probably either lying or delusional.

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    Re: Do You Think That Violent Video Games/ Movies Are An Issue

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    One of my favorite running jokes on game forums are "Things we learned from __" threads, where __ is the name of the game title. And the entries are often hilarious. For example, some of the entries in "Things we learned from Grand Theft Auto" include the following:

    -People never lock their car doors, even in violent neighborhoods.
    -Traffic laws do not exist.
    -Neither does 911.
    -Cops will never follow you into your house. Furthermore, if you go to sleep, they will just go away.

    Et cetera. No sane person would ever absorb Grand Theft Auto as any kind of simulation of real life. Same goes with Halo and a simulation of military battles. Hell, even "realistic" battle simulators don't thrust the person into the real life horrors of battle.

    Moral of the story? Blaming violence in video games and movies is a cop-out.
    I cant play GTA with my son around or he will start cussing. But I havent noticed him being violent in anyway, in fact he has talked to me about wrong it is that I steal cars in the game. A far as the violence in his words: "Its fake dad..."

    I still find it funny that people go on about movies, tv , and games and never mention any of those really messed up books out there.

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    Re: Do You Think That Violent Video Games/ Movies Are An Issue

    Quote Originally Posted by Aderleth View Post
    That's an excellent question. Anyone who claims to have a clear answer is probably either lying or delusional.
    Its not real but I seen him in a movie that my kids were watching the other day.

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    Re: Do You Think That Violent Video Games/ Movies Are An Issue

    More than any of you likely, I have experience in the gaming industry and yes it can be a factor to a bigger issue. It's proven people kill over games and kill themselves over them. That said, a person could die at age 50 and do numerous bad things to themselves; blaming one thing is silly.
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    Re: Do You Think That Violent Video Games/ Movies Are An Issue

    Quote Originally Posted by Aderleth View Post
    That's an excellent question. Anyone who claims to have a clear answer is probably either lying or delusional.
    Perhaps we need to start figuring the answer to the question?
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