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    Re: Do You Think That Violent Video Games/ Movies Are An Issue

    They are an issue, but not really for the problem the OP wants to frame it. They aren't contributors to violent acts in real life so much as allowing sadistic tendencies to shine through in pixels.

    They are an issue when it comes to the market of the games themselves.
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    Re: Do You Think That Violent Video Games/ Movies Are An Issue

    If children are corrupted by violence today they must of been ****ed up beyond pale in the middle ages.

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    Re: Do You Think That Violent Video Games/ Movies Are An Issue

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    They are an issue, but not really for the problem the OP wants to frame it. They aren't contributors to violent acts in real life so much as allowing sadistic tendencies to shine through in pixels.

    They are an issue when it comes to the market of the games themselves.
    How so?

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    Re: Do You Think That Violent Video Games/ Movies Are An Issue

    Quote Originally Posted by 0bserver92 View Post
    Lately the media, especially the liberal media has been scapegoating video games as a possible factor in the Connecticut shooting. Do you believe that violence in video games and movies are an issue and they can cause things like the tragedy we have seen recently. If you do believe they are an issue what do you think should be done? I personally believe that video games/movies cannot cause violence and blaming them is just a stupid reaction to a horrible tragedy. Video games and movies should not be censored or have enforced ratings like minors can't buy M rated video games. Please explain your opinion.
    Violent video games and movies are an influence. The question is to what extent?

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    Re: Do You Think That Violent Video Games/ Movies Are An Issue

    Quote Originally Posted by Aderleth View Post
    How so?
    There's largely the perception among gamers that "casual gaming" (ie stuff not involving violence or at least sport) is not respectable once you reach a certain age or experience level with video games. While true that many developers need to improve said games that are seen as casual, I think "hardcore" gamers largely limit themselves to relying upon certain "genres" of games and perpetuate the myth.
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    Re: Do You Think That Violent Video Games/ Movies Are An Issue

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    There's largely the perception among gamers that "casual gaming" (ie stuff not involving violence or at least sport) is not respectable once you reach a certain age or experience level with video games. While true that many developers need to improve said games that are seen as casual, I think "hardcore" gamers largely limit themselves to relying upon certain "genres" of games and perpetuate the myth.
    A couple of things about this:

    1) If the problem with gaming marketing (the way you're talking about it) is that it perpetuates an interest in violent video games, but violent games by themselves aren't actually a problem, how is the marketing a problem?

    2) You're using the term "causal gaming" in a somewhat unorthodox way. In my experience, it has less to do with genre than it does with either a) the depth and complexity necessary to play a game (e.g. getting good at something like Fallout or Skyrim takes a lot of time and practice, whereas anyone can get decent at Angry Birds or Wii Bowling in about five minutes) or b) the amount of time and effort someone is willing to put into gaming. This second use of the term frequently can and does involve the degree to which a casual vs a hardcore gamer will play the same game. For example, I know some WoW players (I am not one, I hate MMO's) who will refer dsimissively to people who only occasionally log in to WoW as "casuals." So the issue isn't the type of game, but the frequency of play.

    Part of the reason I think this distinction is important in this context is that while you're probably right that as gamers get older, they'll want to play "respectable" games, but that doesn't necessarily mean violent games (although personally I'm not sure that would be a problem even if it did mean that). Some of the most inovlved and hardcore games in existence aren't really violent at all (Civilization comes to mind) or are violent in highly abstract ways, not unlike chess. Obviously that's not true across the board, and people who habitually play FPS games are in a completely different world.

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    Re: Do You Think That Violent Video Games/ Movies Are An Issue

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    There's largely the perception among gamers that "casual gaming" (ie stuff not involving violence or at least sport) is not respectable once you reach a certain age or experience level with video games. While true that many developers need to improve said games that are seen as casual, I think "hardcore" gamers largely limit themselves to relying upon certain "genres" of games and perpetuate the myth.
    I don't really see it this way, what I consider "casual" games are mainly on the iPhone, Android, Wii, etc generally have no to little story, and simple game-play mechanics, just because it isn't violent doesn't mean it's not a "hardcore" game. Now there's nothing wrong with casual games, but as someone who plays a lot of games I wouldn't be satisfied with just that.
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    Re: Do You Think That Violent Video Games/ Movies Are An Issue

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Violent video games and movies are an influence. The question is to what extent?
    To no extent.

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    Re: Do You Think That Violent Video Games/ Movies Are An Issue

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    I don't really see it this way, what I consider "casual" games are mainly on the iPhone, Android, Wii, etc generally have no to little story, and simple game-play mechanics, just because it isn't violent doesn't mean it's not a "hardcore" game. Now there's nothing wrong with casual games, but as someone who plays a lot of games I wouldn't be satisfied with just that.
    You mean cow clickers. Those are what I count as causal games, things that require zero mental ability or strategy.
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    Re: Do You Think That Violent Video Games/ Movies Are An Issue

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    You cant ignore factual reality and NOT see that media has an impact on SOME people. Goshin pointed it out earlier...normal, happy, healthy, well adjusted individuals that have positive self esteem and support systems are unlikely to be impacted. Those lacking...more likely to see the violence perpetrated as desirable and in some cases, actionable. The violent media does not CAUSE the problem...it certainly exacerbates the problem.
    Only for individuals prone to anger, fantasy, delusion or some type of neurological disorder that has trouble controlling emotional responses (severe)
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