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    Mental Health - Isn't This The Real Issue?

    When will America recognize the 800 pound gorilla in the room? When will the focus of concern and attention be directed at the true issue here?

    Why is mental health still such a hush-hush topic? Something to be kept secret? Something to be be ashamed of or buried?

    How can something that effects so many still be thought of as unspeakable and embarrassing?

    Depression, anxiety, fear, anger, loneliness, hatred, and an overwhelming sense of hopelessness.

    These things need far more attention than our country currently give them.

    What will it take for people to open up about such things?

    How can we improve our understanding and knowledge about these conditions and not treat them as weaknesses or things to be ashamed of, but as things that can be overcome and helped through?

    If mental health had the same social stigma as cancer, would society be better off as a whole?

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    Re: Mental Health - Isn't This The Real Issue?

    If mental health was the same as cancer there would be funding for it. Right now the industry does not want to pay for mental health care, at least chronic, because there is no money in it. There is more to it, I think, but money is the bottom line.
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    There's something weird about society. If you can see it in an x-ray it's real. If not, you must be lying, lazy, or both.

    That's something that we must try to avoid.

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    Re: Mental Health - Isn't This The Real Issue?

    As I suggested on a friends facebook wall when they posted the "I Am Adam Lanza's Mother" article...

    Mental Health doesn't get the attention because the hyper partisan agenda drivers on both sides can't make that into a political issue as well, so it's not useful. Guns? Guns can get people arguing, guns can push peoples political buttons, guns can cause controversy. Controversy drives ratings/buys for the media and money/support for politicians. Mental Health? Outside of the standardized health care debate, Mental Health isn't nearly the same hot button political issue. Becuase the reality is, outside of the initial feeling of sadness and hurt towards the victims, most of those in the media and political realm reacting off this thing are doing so at the expense of the victims...not in their memory...simply to push their political views with new ammunition (no pun intended)
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    Re: Mental Health - Isn't This The Real Issue?

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    If mental health was the same as cancer there would be funding for it. Right now the industry does not want to pay for mental health care, at least chronic, because there is no money in it. There is more to it, I think, but money is the bottom line.
    Yes, money is a big issue. A large amount of Medicaid money is used for mental illness treatment and Medicaid is a big issue right now. Many people who have significant mental health problems cannot support or take care of themselves. When you combine the cost of mental illness, drug treatment, nursing home, and general health care for the poor, I don't see how we could ever provide the quality of care that these people need.
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    Re: Mental Health - Isn't This The Real Issue?

    Mental illness has always had a stigma attached to it because people can't see into the minds of the mentally ill in order to completely understand it, whereas they can see the physical deterioration of cancer and other diseases of the body.

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    Re: Mental Health - Isn't This The Real Issue?

    What about your Obama's Medicare. The one that provides health services to everyone for free I hear. The one that offers health services payed from other people (i.e., much spoken socialism)? Does it covers mental health?

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    Re: Mental Health - Isn't This The Real Issue?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    There's something weird about society. If you can see it in an x-ray it's real. If not, you must be lying, lazy, or both.

    That's something that we must try to avoid.
    This, we need to get to a point where going to see a therapist is just like going to see a doctor because you have the flu. We need to de-stigmatize mental illness, period.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonawanda View Post
    Yes, money is a big issue. A large amount of Medicaid money is used for mental illness treatment and Medicaid is a big issue right now. Many people who have significant mental health problems cannot support or take care of themselves. When you combine the cost of mental illness, drug treatment, nursing home, and general health care for the poor, I don't see how we could ever provide the quality of care that these people need.
    State mental hospitals, which provide long term in house care won't accept or aren't allowed to accept medicaid or medicare. As a result, many states have shut down their state mental hospitals for lack adequate funding. That might be why Adam's mother was thinking to move to Washington state where they still have a state mental hospital.


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    Re: Mental Health - Isn't This The Real Issue?

    Which stigma about mental illness is being referenced? There are so many kinds of mental illness, from serious to relatively trivial, that just calling it mental illness causes it to be thought of in the most serious terms.

    We also use mental illness terms to reference any horrific criminal action: "What sane person would kill 20 children?"

    On the other hand, it used to be easier to have someone committed when a threat was possible.

    I don't know the solution, but if it is true that some mental health professional tried to have this killer institutionalized and was prevented from doing so, then this is going to turn into a battle between the "take the guns from people" crowd and the "mental illness needs more money" crowd. Neither one will prevent these things but one will make feel better and one will not. Pick your poison.
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