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Thread: Mental Health - Isn't This The Real Issue?

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    Re: Mental Health - Isn't This The Real Issue?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    When will America recognize the 800 pound gorilla in the room? When will the focus of concern and attention be directed at the true issue here?

    Why is mental health still such a hush-hush topic? Something to be kept secret? Something to be be ashamed of or buried?

    How can something that effects so many still be thought of as unspeakable and embarrassing?

    Depression, anxiety, fear, anger, loneliness, hatred, and an overwhelming sense of hopelessness.

    These things need far more attention than our country currently give them.

    What will it take for people to open up about such things?

    How can we improve our understanding and knowledge about these conditions and not treat them as weaknesses or things to be ashamed of, but as things that can be overcome and helped through?

    If mental health had the same social stigma as cancer, would society be better off as a whole?
    I wouldn't say that mental health is "the real" issue. There are plenty of "real" issues. It is, however, a significant issue that is not given enough attention probably because even the people who are supposed to be reporting on it (the media) are turned off by the stigma.

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    Re: Mental Health - Isn't This The Real Issue?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Not all people, with mental illness present clear violent tendencies.
    Sometimes, they just react out of no where.

    I'd be very leery of restarting serious non voluntary institutionalization.
    Sometimes it's used as a tool to take property from wealthy family members, sometimes it's used to shut people out of the world, etc.

    Community based care, with a possibility of institutionalizing people, with clearly dangerous personalities, ok.
    I could get on board, provided it's done right.
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    Re: Mental Health - Isn't This The Real Issue?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Mentally ill is an open term. It applies to pretty much all of us but is used to talk about people that fall outside the norm. Relax.
    Sorry you are wrong look it up.
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    Re: Mental Health - Isn't This The Real Issue?

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfman24 View Post
    very well done. Good job.
    I know there are still, middle aged adults who were sterilized while in the care of institutions.
    Now they had mental disabilities, but they weren't dangerous individuals.

    To me, that's monstrous.
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    Re: Mental Health - Isn't This The Real Issue?

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    Sorry for the confusion. There's no question in my mind concerning the need for mental health. I'm think probably now more than ever. I would submit that the causes of mental health may have broadened or increased over a few decades due to an atrocious American diet and to the over use of prescriptions drugs in the U.S. While I believe research can and would point to both poor diet and prescription drugs/over medication to being major factors in contributing to mental health I believe Big Business will/would stand in the way of those truths being acknowledged. I don't believe that mood altering drugs, prescription or illegal, and gun use are necessarily a good combination.

    I also suspect that electronic media plays a major part.
    I think you and I have talked about this before. Diet has nothing really to do with it, but its an opinion so I will leave it at that Nor is there any evidence that games movies or shows do and that I do know. Caviot - if the person is already 'distrubed" the influence of electronic media is IMHO not clear.
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    Re: Mental Health - Isn't This The Real Issue?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I know there are still, middle aged adults who were sterilized while in the care of institutions.
    Now they had mental disabilities, but they weren't dangerous individuals.

    To me, that's monstrous.
    Oh yeah at late as the late 1960's
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    Re: Mental Health - Isn't This The Real Issue?

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfman24 View Post
    Sorry you are wrong look it up.
    The point is that everybody has mental issues... some are just more severe than others. You are a kid, aren't you? No offense, just helps me understand who I am debating.
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    Re: Mental Health - Isn't This The Real Issue?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    The point is that everybody has mental issues... some are just more severe than others. You are a kid, aren't you? No offense, just helps me understand who I am debating.
    Yes another fail. I am probably older than you. I have been around REAL DD people my whole life and almost all the male members of my family are DD. I have a degree in Animal Behavior and Human Behaviorla Psychology and have given talks all over on DD and the role of Parents and teachers to that affect.

    Really just a question. Who is Tony Attwood and what was the name of the book that started media interest in Aspergers Syndrome. Caviot time test.
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    Re: Mental Health - Isn't This The Real Issue?

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfman24 View Post
    Yes another fail. I am probably older than you. I have been around REAL DD people my whole life and almost all the male members of my family are DD. I have a degree in Animal Behavior and Human Behaviorla Psychology and have given talks all over on DD and the role of Parents and teachers to that affect.

    Really just a question. Who is Tony Attwood and what was the name of the book that started media interest in Aspergers Syndrome. Caviot time test.
    Fail on the kid part but not the mental challenges part. No idea nor do I care who that guy is. Not even gonna look it up to debate you with either.
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    Re: Mental Health - Isn't This The Real Issue?

    Oh, and what is a REAL DD person?

    ...and you sound like a naive and angry kid, just sayin'.
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