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  • yes - we should openly discuss and confront this as a country

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Thread: Mental Health - Isn't This The Real Issue?

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    Re: Mental Health - Isn't This The Real Issue?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Eliminate all government assistance programs.
    Is that sarcasm and a political jab at "socialism"? Or an honest suggestion from you?

    What would that accomplish?

    If somebody has lost their job and can't find another one, and they have a child or children to care for, and medical bills, and are on the verge of losing their house or apartment, and credit cards are starting to get maxed out.....how would having no safety net at all help with preventing a feeling of hopelessness?

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    Re: Mental Health - Isn't This The Real Issue?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Is that sarcasm and a political jab at "socialism"? Or an honest suggestion from you?

    What would that accomplish?

    If somebody has lost their job and can't find another one, and they have a child or children to care for, and medical bills, and are on the verge of losing their house or apartment, and credit cards are starting to get maxed out.....how would having no safety net at all help with preventing a feeling of hopelessness?
    So the purpose of safety nets according to you is to avoid a feeling of hopelessness?

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    Re: Mental Health - Isn't This The Real Issue?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    So the purpose of safety nets according to you is to avoid a feeling of hopelessness?
    Jeez.....where'd you get that from?

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    Re: Mental Health - Isn't This The Real Issue?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    There's something weird about society. If you can see it in an x-ray it's real. If not, you must be lying, lazy, or both.

    That's something that we must try to avoid.
    But, the quantity of people who "think" in this manner is diminishing - quickly
    IMO, we do not have nearly enough professionals in this field...and working with the human mind......a toughie to say the least...as I should know...

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    Re: Mental Health - Isn't This The Real Issue?

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Mental illness has always had a stigma attached to it because people can't see into the minds of the mentally ill in order to completely understand it, whereas they can see the physical deterioration of cancer and other diseases of the body.
    Then, people will have to grow closer with each other, become more open and honest..
    I am proposing major societal changes.
    Fear must be erased......easy to say...sounds great....but how ??

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    Re: Mental Health - Isn't This The Real Issue?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    This, we need to get to a point where going to see a therapist is just like going to see a doctor because you have the flu. We need to de-stigmatize mental illness, period.
    Absolutely, but how ?
    To change an attitude...IMO, all but impossible....but we still have to try.
    And, I'd never go to any doctor over the "flu".
    Thay can do little and its way too expensive.
    As would mental care be.....and "they" can do little, again....as I directly know

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    Re: Mental Health - Isn't This The Real Issue?

    Why? Holmes in Colorado was getting mental health assistance. Lanza was also under mental health care. It wasn't stigmatized, it wasn't avoided, and it wasn't unavailable.

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    Re: Mental Health - Isn't This The Real Issue?

    yes - we should openly discuss and confront this as a country
    My initial response would be this. However it is not possible in our country. People are not capable of intelligent debate on a topic in an attempt to come to a reasonable solution.
    “Most people do not listen with the intent to understand; they listen with the intent to reply.”
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    Re: Mental Health - Isn't This The Real Issue?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Is that sarcasm and a political jab at "socialism"? Or an honest suggestion from you?

    What would that accomplish?

    If somebody has lost their job and can't find another one, and they have a child or children to care for, and medical bills, and are on the verge of losing their house or apartment, and credit cards are starting to get maxed out.....how would having no safety net at all help with preventing a feeling of hopelessness?
    Both, in a way.


    The way I view things, someone dependent on government assistance has reached almost the lowest point they can, and in my mind relying on the government for sustenance or, frankly, anything at all, is a depressing situation that might make people feel all hope is lost, at least for them specifically.


    But on the other hand it was also sarcasm, because I know that given the current economic situation here in the US and also in multiple other areas around the world, eliminating all government assistance would likely result in a bunch of dead people who rely on it.


    Which returns to the serious, since that's a kind of catch-22 in a way.

    We must support some people or they die (or other less permanent issues arise). But if we continue with those increasing (I think) costs of supporting people, our economy/country dies.



    Or something like that, anyway.
    Is how I see it.
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    Re: Mental Health - Isn't This The Real Issue?

    This is a rather disgusting example of how our country treats mental health:

    Suicides in Military Rise, Even as Combat Lessens - ABC News

    For U.S. troops, less combat is not translating to less stress. Members of the military committed suicide at a record pace in 2012 — almost one per day — and some experts think the trend will grow worse this year.

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