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Thread: Mental Health - Isn't This The Real Issue?

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    Re: Mental Health - Isn't This The Real Issue?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    You're completely correct.

    However, maybe it's possible to cut down on the number of people who make a choice to take out as many people as possible just before they end their own life?

    Maybe it's possible to cut down on the number of suicides overall?

    Maybe it's possible to cut down on violence against others?

    Maybe it's possible to cut down on alcohol and illegal drug dependence?

    If every single man walking the planet gets a regular prostate exam and colonoscopy that won't stop some people from dying of prostate cancer, but it surely might cut down on the number that do.

    Do you agree that there is a stigma in the USofA associated with mental health issues?
    Perhaps it is possible to cut down on people doing stupid **** but at what price? And yes I have observed a certain amount of stigma among certain groups but things have improved considerably over how things were 40 years a go.

    Im not at all pursuing better care for the mentally ill but I fear that it will resort to the old method of turning it into a witch hunt setting us back much further than 40 years.

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    Re: Mental Health - Isn't This The Real Issue?

    Witch hunts are the result of fear.

    If we remove the fear, and provide acceptance, acknowledgement, and above all else - HOPE - we'd move a long way from where we are today.

    I don't see mental health care as an either/or scenario.

    Again, if seeking guidance and help from a counselor, psychologist, sociologist, priest, or even just a family member was basically viewed as no different than seeing a dentist over a tooth ache our society would better off by magnitudes.

    IMHO

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    Re: Mental Health - Isn't This The Real Issue?

    Quote Originally Posted by paris View Post
    I don't know about Medicare, but here (France) it depends on what sort of therapy you are seeking. If you consult a psychiatrist, it will be partially covered, especially since the cure will most likely involve prescription drugs. A psychoanalyst will have to be paid fully from your own pocket, but some of them do practice for free in a few dedicated centers - just don't expect to receive the same quality of care you would get if you pay.
    Psychoanalysis is for those who have the time and are committed to get to the root of the issue that may last up to a decade. What about cognitive-behavioral therapy?
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    Stats come out and always show life getting better. News makes money in making you think its not.
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    Re: Mental Health - Isn't This The Real Issue?

    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    Psychoanalysis is for those who have the time and are committed to get to the root of the issue that may last up to a decade. What about cognitive-behavioral therapy?
    Yea, what about it, and fast food?

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    Re: Mental Health - Isn't This The Real Issue?

    Quote Originally Posted by paris View Post
    Yea, what about it, and fast food?
    I mean is that covered?
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    Re: Mental Health - Isn't This The Real Issue?

    There was some progress made for awhile with mental health after decades of abuse and abandonment. Then in the 70s politicians and govt in their quest to not raise taxs and to have funds to give to their friends and buddies started to close entire facilities as cost saving. Legions of mentally challenged individuals with no money no where to go where unleashed. Many became homeless, some became convicts and either way society PAID.
    Mental health MUST be addressed for the populace..its not a special interest, its in the interest of us all.

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    Re: Mental Health - Isn't This The Real Issue?

    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    I mean is that covered?
    I suppose it is, since it is backed by most government agencies; but I don't really know: you'll probably need to ask someone who does.

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    Re: Mental Health - Isn't This The Real Issue?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Witch hunts are the result of fear.

    If we remove the fear, and provide acceptance, acknowledgement, and above all else - HOPE - we'd move a long way from where we are today.

    I don't see mental health care as an either/or scenario.

    Again, if seeking guidance and help from a counselor, psychologist, sociologist, priest, or even just a family member was basically viewed as no different than seeing a dentist over a tooth ache our society would better off by magnitudes.

    IMHO
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    Re: Mental Health - Isn't This The Real Issue?

    After thinking about this more and more I believe the core issue might be a complete feeling of hopelessness.

    If you have some hope, you're not going to do something ridiculously rash. If you have hope you're willing to listen, or talk, or seek help.

    It's only when all hope is lost that somebody will snap.

    How can we as a society try to prevent people from feeling like all hope is lost?

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    Re: Mental Health - Isn't This The Real Issue?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    After thinking about this more and more I believe the core issue might be a complete feeling of hopelessness.

    If you have some hope, you're not going to do something ridiculously rash. If you have hope you're willing to listen, or talk, or seek help.

    It's only when all hope is lost that somebody will snap.

    How can we as a society try to prevent people from feeling like all hope is lost?
    Eliminate all government assistance programs.
    Education.

    Sometimes I think we're alone. Sometimes I think we're not. In either case, the thought is staggering. ~ R. Buckminster Fuller

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