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  • The Shooters

    61 78.21%
  • The shooters' families

    9 11.54%
  • The NRA and other Pro Gun groups

    8 10.26%
  • The Second Amendment

    2 2.56%
  • Gun Free zone laws that disarm victims

    18 23.08%
  • The Media for hyping the shootings

    22 28.21%
  • The legal or mental health system

    14 17.95%
  • Society in General

    27 34.62%
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    Re: Who or What is most responsible for the mass shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Vote now-I am hearing lots of lefties blaming the NRA rather than the killers
    How can you ask who is most responsible and then allow for multiple votes? Most means more than half. Only one choice can be MOST.
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    Re: Who or What is most responsible for the mass shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    How can you ask who is most responsible and then allow for multiple votes? Most means more than half. Only one choice can be MOST.
    feel free to pick only one choice then

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    Re: Who or What is most responsible for the mass shootings

    All of the above and then some.

    A culture that glorifies gun violence will spawn gun violence.
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    The economy will improve under this bill. If a few people die, it will be for the betterament of this country.

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    Re: Who or What is most responsible for the mass shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    All of the above and then some.

    A culture that glorifies gun violence will spawn gun violence.
    several senior LEOs suggested the best thing to do is not give these massacres or their perpetrators massive coverage because that inspires others. Of course when many in the media hate the NRA and gun rights, that advice will fall on deaf ears

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    Re: Who or What is most responsible for the mass shootings

    "Most responsible" doesn't leave room for multiple options, so I specified the shooter -- nobody is more responsible for the actions of an adult than said adult.

    That said, the way society looks at mental illness in general and the way we "care" for people with mental illness is disgusting and needs to change.

    If we're going to address this kind of violence definitively we need to attack it from multiple angles at once -- and the main thrust needs to be the perception and treatment of mental illness.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Who or What is most responsible for the mass shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    several senior LEOs suggested the best thing to do is not give these massacres or their perpetrators massive coverage because that inspires others. Of course when many in the media hate the NRA and gun rights, that advice will fall on deaf ears
    This will also help -- that's exactly why local stations around here don't cover bomb threats, which keeps the number way down.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Who or What is most responsible for the mass shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    several senior LEOs suggested the best thing to do is not give these massacres or their perpetrators massive coverage because that inspires others. Of course when many in the media hate the NRA and gun rights, that advice will fall on deaf ears
    Yeah...I don't generally give a crap what law enforcement officers have to say because I've met enough corrupt ones to know their opinion isn't worth much more than any other individuals.

    That said, the media does play a huge role, but it goes full circle because the media is simply a business providing its consumers with what they want. Trying to blame the media for how people use what is reported is no different than blaming gun manufactures for how guns are used.
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    Re: Who or What is most responsible for the mass shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Yeah...I don't generally give a crap what law enforcement officers have to say because I've met enough corrupt ones to know their opinion isn't worth much more than any other individuals.

    That said, the media does play a huge role, but it goes full circle because the media is simply a business providing its consumers with what they want. Trying to blame the media for how people use what is reported is no different than blaming gun manufactures for how guns are used.
    its a chicken or the egg issue with the media and "what the public wants

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    Re: Who or What is most responsible for the mass shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    several senior LEOs suggested the best thing to do is not give these massacres or their perpetrators massive coverage because that inspires others. Of course when many in the media hate the NRA and gun rights, that advice will fall on deaf ears
    an unreasonable expectation

    like refusing to broadcast news of 9/11 for fear it might be imitated
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    Re: Who or What is most responsible for the mass shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    its a chicken or the egg issue with the media and "what the public wants
    No, it's always what the public wants. The public wants more guns then gun manufacturers will make more guns. The public wants more movies, TV shows, news reporting, and video games featuring gun violence then that is what the media will provide. It is simple economics. The public provides the demand and the businesses provide the supply. All you are doing is trying to blame the media the same way others try to blame the gun manufacturers. The real problem is with the public. Why do we have a public that has such an insatiable thirst for guns and violence? When are we going to have enough?
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    The economy will improve under this bill. If a few people die, it will be for the betterament of this country.

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