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    Re: Can you live on Minimum Wage

    The minimum wage was never meant to be a livable wage. The minimum wage was instituted when the American culture was still dominant and the minimum wage was meant to be a standard for school kids, elderly people and jobs that required no education or training. It was simply understood that Americans would always try to better themselves through education and training because that was what defined America.

    Presently, the liberal worshipped labor force in America now is the 3rd world, primarily Mexican culture, which believes that a minimum wage job is a career job and they do nothing to improve their skills or marketability to other employers, they simply take a job requiring no skills, stay there forever and whine that their employer doesn't give them enough money to live in the fashion they believe they deserve. NEVER does the thought of more education or training enter their heads, they simply demand that the liberal government help them take more from their evil employer.

    It's a whole different culture than the American culture of self reliance, self determination and improvement.

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    Re: Can you live on Minimum Wage

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    you man up and stop being a bitch. when i was 24 years old i worked construction ($6/hr in the late 80s) 14-16 hours a day 5 days a week (MWFSS) and went to college on Tuesdays and Thursdays. my wife, i and two kids lived in a crappy 3 room apartment over a copier shop and lived off beans, rice and whatever veggies we could grow in window boxes. i did this for a year and a half until i graduated and got a job that paid better.
    Like very much, BUT
    $6 an hour in the late 80s is much more than the $7 in todays money.
    And your "planning" was non-existent.
    The hard work and dedication and sacrifice more than make up for it..
    I was never really dedicated nor willing to sacrifice that much.....in my opinion.. ..

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    Re: Can you live on Minimum Wage

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    Like very much, BUT
    $6 an hour in the late 80s is much more than the $7 in todays money.
    And your "planning" was non-existent.
    The hard work and dedication and sacrifice more than make up for it..
    true, $6 then is more than $7 now.

    i had a plan, got off active duty and had 3 semesters of college left, knew a guy with a construction company and knew i could get a job and hold on until i could finish my degree

    I was never really dedicated nor willing to sacrifice that much.....in my opinion.. ..
    and that seems to be the problem with a lot of people today. they want someone to give them a "living wage" without having to be dedicated or sacrifice to earn it
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    Re: Can you live on Minimum Wage

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Look conservatives need to get their heads out...and stop living in this lala land where they believe everyone can work hard and go to college and blahblahblahblah...NO not everyone can go to college, no not everyone is bright enough to do college level work...not everyone can possibly afford to go to college...and NO NOT EVERYONE IS GOING TO BE RICH and successful through hard work...that is a big BS story and just talking points for people that dont want to pay any taxs and dont give a chit if they step over bodies in the street
    Come on back when you come up with a real argument and stop making excuses for everyone.
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    Re: Can you live on Minimum Wage

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Can you live on minimum wage or even up to 50% more than the minimum wage, before you decide read this article and look the map.
    I am looking for another easier to read graph that shows apt costs in every state which in turn shows that at minimum wage FULL time workers cant pay for an apt
    Also keep in mind most Minimum wage and low wage earners are part timers <walmarts>


    Rent Affordability on Minimum Wage - NYTimes.com


    I'd probably have to do without electricity and internet, and we'd be eating a lot of white rice and grits. It would suck, big time... and I'm luckier than most, I don't have a lot of debt.

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    Re: Can you live on Minimum Wage

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    I disagree, I think anyone who completes high school is capable of college level work.
    Community college classes are affordable to just about anyone.
    Even just putting some college on your resume can improve your chances.
    Taking a few specialize classes related to your area may even get you a career.
    If nothing else, anyone can wait tables, it teaches good people skills.
    In 1979 when the minimum wage was $2.65/hr, I waited tables at a pizza place
    for $1.90/hr, but would make about $25/6 hour shift in tips(and free Pizza).
    The real problems come when you have a family that is counting on you to provide.
    I have worked some UGLY jobs over the years, to make sure my kids were provided for.
    The good news is, the USA is truly the land of opportunity, hard work and a good attitude do pay off.
    It is the reason so many people still want to come here.
    Even if they "cannot" handle going to college for a "college" degree. There are still trade schools. There are skilled jobs, like auto mechanics, that you can go to trade school for or get hired by a local dealer and the company will train you (if you show you have the attitude and aptitude for them to spend the money on you).

    A friend of mine is a welder. He didn't go to college, but instead learned welding at a welding school. He worked hard, became skilled and now qualifies as a master welder who can work pipeline and power plant work. He is around 30 years old now, can earn $40/hr or more and never has problems finding a job (in right to work states, he is not union).

    My brother works as a field service technician for a Caterpillar dealership. He got out of the Air Force, went there to ask what schools he needed to get hired and got hired on the spot. He worked hard, kept a good attitude and was sent to specific schools that he needed (the dealership paid for them). I don't know his exact salary, we never talked about it, but I overheard somewhere around $35/hr. He could probably make more if he moved from the field, but he likes it and makes enough to suit him that he is not interested in moving and since he is good at it, the dealer has no reason to move him.

    There a slew of skilled jobs out there for those who will at least make the effort to become skilled. Welder, mechanic, plumber, electrician, etc, that do not require college. Are you going to end up on the Top Earners list, no, but you can make a damned good living at these trades.
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    Re: Can you live on Minimum Wage

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    I'd probably have to do without electricity and internet, and we'd be eating a lot of white rice and grits. It would suck, big time... and I'm luckier than most, I don't have a lot of debt.
    I wouldn't. I probably would not survive the conditions that reduce me to minimum wage. I live off a military retirement (E-7, 22yrs 8 months) and VA disability (100% rating). If those get taken away, nope, I will probably not survive the fallout.
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    Re: Can you live on Minimum Wage

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfman24 View Post
    How can a person live independantly on 7.25 per hour? Not startng something just asking.( just short of 11k per year before tax)
    I'm basing this on Southeast Michigan, near where I live. It might not work in some areas of the country where cost of living is significantly higher.

    Okay, at $7.25 an hour, a 40 hour work week gets you $290. So roughly $1160 per month, and that's working no overtime, and accounting for a few (unpaid) days off here and there for various things.

    A small (~500 sq foot) one-bedroom apartment is $400/month and includes water, sewer, and trash.
    Based on what my wife and I pay for gas and electric, scaled for a 500 square foot apartment, and increased by 50 percent because the apartment probably isn't insulated all that well, utility bills would probably be around $75 per month, which matches decently with a quick google search.
    A regional bus pass (i.e. you can go most anywhere in SE Michigan and can ride an unlimited amount) is $50/month.
    A USDA study has stated that the average American spends $7 per day on food, and that a diet with a lot of calorie dense foods can be as little as $3.50 a day. If we go with the average, that's roughly $215/month for food.
    Median monthly spending in the US on clothing is $70/month.

    So the bare-bones basics necessary to feed, shelter, and clothe yourself, and transportation to and from your job eats up $810/month, with $350/month left over. If it's just you living by yourself, it wouldn't be that hard (though as I mentioned, you won't be living well). If you have kids, it's going to be pretty difficult, and you're probably going to have to work overtime.
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    Re: Can you live on Minimum Wage

    NV minimum wage is $8.25 x 167 hours per month = $1377.75 post taxes est. $1171.

    Rent $350 (incl utilities). Transportation est. $100.

    So, my answer is yes, you could live on minimum wage if you don't buy stuff, just food and necessities.

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    Re: Can you live on Minimum Wage

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Can you live on minimum wage or even up to 50% more than the minimum wage, before you decide read this article and look the map.
    I am looking for another easier to read graph that shows apt costs in every state which in turn shows that at minimum wage FULL time workers cant pay for an apt
    Also keep in mind most Minimum wage and low wage earners are part timers <walmarts>


    Rent Affordability on Minimum Wage - NYTimes.com
    My mom and I live on minimum wage. We also live in a house that has been paid off and with my Grandparents. Either way, it leaves absolutely no free money
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