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    Re: Can you live on Minimum Wage

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Living off one person working a minimum wage job on their own, with no other form of assistance what so ever, and trying to live on ones own?

    In some places, yes, but it'd be difficult and it'd be basically at bare necessities. In others, no.

    Which is as it should be.

    Then if thats the way it should be, then everyone else needs to pay more to the govt to help them ones that cant. Whats the alternative ?

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    Re: Can you live on Minimum Wage

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    You could do it, but your entire frame of reference would have to change.
    You would need to share an apartment or rent a room from someone.
    You diet would be very limited. You would learn all about real economy.
    No cell phone, no cable TV, can't afford to run the AC.
    Sort of like life in the 50's!
    You get excited if they open a day old bread store within walking distance.
    People live among us who struggle with this every day, it is only a temporary station.
    This is the beauty of the USA, we are not assigned to a place in life for life.
    We can, through hard work, and commitment get promoted and get rises.

    As a young man I lived this life, it is hard, but it makes you appreciate the little things.
    No you will never get anything through hard work and kissing ass. Only thing that really matters is a CONTRACT and striking to get it.

    And a cell phone is a MUST HAVE today, most employers require it. $15 for the phone, $35 month unlimited plan. So yes a cell phone is affordable.
    And my AC in PHOENIX only cost (at my last place) $35 month (AC only). so agian wrong.

    But no you cant live on it, you have to have special no market, low cost bills and housing.

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    Re: Can you live on Minimum Wage

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Then if thats the way it should be, then everyone else needs to pay more to the govt to help them ones that cant. Whats the alternative ?
    Which was really the reason you made this thread to begin with.

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    Re: Can you live on Minimum Wage

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGirlNextDoor View Post
    Define "live".

    I'd say one could survive on minimum wage - barely. Taking into consideration if a person had no children, pets or anyone else they had to care for. And if perhaps, a person had a person who was independent and could split expenses... then maybe. Highly doubtful.

    I make more than minimum wage and I'm barely 'living', and I work hella hours. I can't imagine a person having to live off of a lot less.

    In very few areas of the country can even a single person live on minimum wage. Minimum wage is 7.25 an hr most min wage workers are part time very few are full time. Employers dont want the costs for hiring full time so they hire for less than 30 hrs.
    Lets assume all work 40 hrs that comes to gross 290.00 less social security, fed tax and unemployment insurance...lets for argument sake say they bring him 240.00 a week...you can rent a furnished room in most of the state of NY and NJ, Conn and Id bet all of California and many other states...then buy food pay a bill or two and pay for transportation and an occaisional hair cut..
    You cant live on min wage, you cant live on social security...the average ss check is starting in 2012 is 1232.00 per month...you cant rent an apt in the northeast for that..and pay utils.

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    Re: Can you live on Minimum Wage

    I think most here know the economic perils of raising minumum wage so I wont go into it.

    I guess faced with such an existance why would anyone chose NOT to better theirseves and earn higher ?

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    Re: Can you live on Minimum Wage

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    In very few areas of the country can even a single person live on minimum wage. Minimum wage is 7.25 an hr most min wage workers are part time very few are full time. Employers dont want the costs for hiring full time so they hire for less than 30 hrs.
    Lets assume all work 40 hrs that comes to gross 290.00 less social security, fed tax and unemployment insurance...lets for argument sake say they bring him 240.00 a week...you can rent a furnished room in most of the state of NY and NJ, Conn and Id bet all of California and many other states...then buy food pay a bill or two and pay for transportation and an occaisional hair cut..
    You cant live on min wage, you cant live on social security...the average ss check is starting in 2012 is 1232.00 per month...you cant rent an apt in the northeast for that..and pay utils.
    As I said later in this thread - I've done it working two jobs. Thing is, I'm smart enough not to live on either coast - so my COL isn't outrageous. It still isn't. I have a 2200 sq ft, 4 bed, 3 bath, double car garage for way less than your less than your $1232/mo stated above.
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    Re: Can you live on Minimum Wage

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Then if thats the way it should be, then everyone else needs to pay more to the govt to help them ones that cant. Whats the alternative ?
    Wrong. I got what I have by busting my ass and working hard. I don't get nor take handouts.
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    Re: Can you live on Minimum Wage

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    That map is skewed because it references pricing for a 2-bedroom apartment and uses "market rent" which is almost always higher than the actual amount one pays (it's how apartments trick you into thinking you're getting a deal).

    Here's a nice complex near my office:
    Dana Point Apartments in Dallas, TX | Apartments.com

    If I'm single with part-time income from two jobs totaling 40 hours a week, I have no need for anything larger than the 1-bedroom unit.

    So here's the total:
    $468/month for rent
    $45/month for a no-contract cell phone
    $40/month for internet (no cable..but why? I can watch TV online for free!)
    $90/month for electricity
    $150/month for food and toiletries

    Total: $793

    Now...I could walk to work from that apartment if I were working at many of the local fast food places (about the only places that pay minimum wage), but let's assume I have to take public transit to work. The monthly pass is $80 and gives me access to both the bus and the rail system that covers most of the metroplex.

    So that takes me to $873 a month. We'll add another $20 for water/trash and we're at $893.

    So minimum wage is $7.25 in Texas. At 40 hours a week, that would come to $290.00/week, or $1256.67 a month [($290 *52)/12]. Or about $1,005.34 a month after taxes.

    I'd be left with $112.34 a month to spend on other needs.

    Starbucks (about 3 blocks from the apartment) starts you off at around $8.59. If I do that 40 hours a week, I'm at $343.60/week, or $1,488.93 a month ($1,191.15 after taxes). That leaves me with $298.15 a month for other needs.

    Wal-Mart starts you off at around $8.50.
    Target starts overnight stockers at around $9.50.
    The average Olive Garden waitstaff makes between $18k and $23k a year, depending on whether they're part time or full-time.

    So yeah...I could survive here on minimum wage, and most of the local stores and restaurants will actually net you more.
    You left out alot tess...toothepaste, toilet paper, cleaning supplies...washing your clothes at the laundramat getting a haircut...getting to and from work, buying shoes when you need them, buying clothes when you need them..what if the person needs eyeglass's there are som any things you have left out of LIVING...cant be done in most of the areas of the country...certainly not in the northeast...you cant rent a furnished room for that price in jersey or NY or conn, lets not forget most min wage earners do not work 40 hrs either..

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    Re: Can you live on Minimum Wage

    Could I now? No, I have a family, minimum wage was never intended to be enough to provide for a family. Back when I was living with my parents and they were covering most of my expenses, I did just fine on minimum wage. That's what it's for, providing a job to learn work skills and a work ethic before you move up. Anyone who has a family and tries to live on it is a moron.
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    Re: Can you live on Minimum Wage

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Other than when I was very young, living with my parents, I could never have lived on minimum wage. And living with my parents wasn't supporting myself anyway.

    Minimum-wage jobs are not meant to support anybody.
    True maggie but thats all too many americans can get now..

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