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    Re: Can you live on Minimum Wage

    I live on ~1k/month.

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    Re: Can you live on Minimum Wage

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Can you live on minimum wage or even up to 50% more than the minimum wage, before you decide read this article and look the map.
    I am looking for another easier to read graph that shows apt costs in every state which in turn shows that at minimum wage FULL time workers cant pay for an apt
    Also keep in mind most Minimum wage and low wage earners are part timers <walmarts>


    Rent Affordability on Minimum Wage - NYTimes.com
    You can do it, but you really, really won't like it. You'll be eating a lot of ramen and have zero elbow space.

    You can get a crappy 1 bedroom apartment in Texas for about 300-400. So you ride your bike to work, buy ramen, and keep the non-necessities low. Meaning 160 hours a month x $7 / hour = ~$1,120.

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    Re: Can you live on Minimum Wage

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Can you live on minimum wage or even up to 50% more than the minimum wage, before you decide read this article and look the map.
    I am looking for another easier to read graph that shows apt costs in every state which in turn shows that at minimum wage FULL time workers cant pay for an apt
    Also keep in mind most Minimum wage and low wage earners are part timers <walmarts>


    Rent Affordability on Minimum Wage - NYTimes.com
    Living off one person working a minimum wage job on their own, with no other form of assistance what so ever, and trying to live on ones own?

    In some places, yes, but it'd be difficult and it'd be basically at bare necessities. In others, no.

    Which is as it should be.

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    Re: Can you live on Minimum Wage

    Define "live".

    I'd say one could survive on minimum wage - barely. Taking into consideration if a person had no children, pets or anyone else they had to care for. And if perhaps, a person had a person who was independent and could split expenses... then maybe. Highly doubtful.

    I make more than minimum wage and I'm barely 'living', and I work hella hours. I can't imagine a person having to live off of a lot less.
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    Re: Can you live on Minimum Wage

    Minimum wage is mot meant to give you a great life style. It is meant to give you a minimum life style. If you want a better life, get a better skill or education and then get a better job.

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    Re: Can you live on Minimum Wage

    With government programs maybe, paying market value you couldn't even rent a room in my city working 40 hours a week..... If you can't even afford to share an apartment within legal occupancy limits of the fire code it is pretty hard to make the argument you could live unless the homeless shelter is what you mean.

    And the real problem is people don't get 40 hours on minimum wage, a job will ususally keep them part time so they have to get multiple jobs with no benefits of being full time.

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    Re: Can you live on Minimum Wage

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    Some do. They work 60 or more hours a week, at multiple jobs.
    i know people who do this. however, since none of the jobs offer health insurance, they still have to enroll in medicaid. i'd argue that the answer is still "no" in these cases.

    just one more great reason to take another long look at our employer-specific health insurance delivery model, IMO.

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    Re: Can you live on Minimum Wage

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Can you live on minimum wage or even up to 50% more than the minimum wage, before you decide read this article and look the map.
    I am looking for another easier to read graph that shows apt costs in every state which in turn shows that at minimum wage FULL time workers cant pay for an apt
    Also keep in mind most Minimum wage and low wage earners are part timers <walmarts>


    Rent Affordability on Minimum Wage - NYTimes.com
    I've lived on minimum wage.

    No, it's not fun, but it doesn't change my perspective one ounce.
    I do not believe in "living wages."
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    Re: Can you live on Minimum Wage

    That map is skewed because it references pricing for a 2-bedroom apartment and uses "market rent" which is almost always higher than the actual amount one pays (it's how apartments trick you into thinking you're getting a deal).

    Here's a nice complex near my office:
    Dana Point Apartments in Dallas, TX | Apartments.com

    If I'm single with part-time income from two jobs totaling 40 hours a week, I have no need for anything larger than the 1-bedroom unit.

    So here's the total:
    $468/month for rent
    $45/month for a no-contract cell phone
    $40/month for internet (no cable..but why? I can watch TV online for free!)
    $90/month for electricity
    $150/month for food and toiletries

    Total: $793

    Now...I could walk to work from that apartment if I were working at many of the local fast food places (about the only places that pay minimum wage), but let's assume I have to take public transit to work. The monthly pass is $80 and gives me access to both the bus and the rail system that covers most of the metroplex.

    So that takes me to $873 a month. We'll add another $20 for water/trash and we're at $893.

    So minimum wage is $7.25 in Texas. At 40 hours a week, that would come to $290.00/week, or $1256.67 a month [($290 *52)/12]. Or about $1,005.34 a month after taxes.

    I'd be left with $112.34 a month to spend on other needs.

    Starbucks (about 3 blocks from the apartment) starts you off at around $8.59. If I do that 40 hours a week, I'm at $343.60/week, or $1,488.93 a month ($1,191.15 after taxes). That leaves me with $298.15 a month for other needs.

    Wal-Mart starts you off at around $8.50.
    Target starts overnight stockers at around $9.50.
    The average Olive Garden waitstaff makes between $18k and $23k a year, depending on whether they're part time or full-time.

    So yeah...I could survive here on minimum wage, and most of the local stores and restaurants will actually net you more.
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    Re: Can you live on Minimum Wage

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Nope. Living on Minimum Wage is almost impossible. Especially for anyone who has any sort of bills (electric, cable, gas, etc...). Of course, the Minimum Wage was never really intended to be for people to live on for extended periods of time, and definitely not with a family. People who want to see the Minimum Wage as a Living Wage seem to miss that point more often than not.
    That is the crux of the matter. A single person would indeed have a hard time living alone on the minimum wage, that is why it is applied only to entry level, low skilled positions. Hopefully that person can find another person in such circumsances and share a residence, basically reducing the cost of living for both by about 2/3, as basically only the food costs increase by adding a second person to that residence. The other thing often missed about these minimum wage positions is that they are usually temporary, as the employee gains education and/or job skills and moves up in value and pay, or they are used as a supplement for retirement income or as an additional source of household income (where the primary breadwinner has a higher paying position).

    My own living situation is fairly low cost: Rent $300/month (single-wide mobile home on 1/3 acre of land), utilities (electric, water and cable/internet) $200/month, transportation (1995 Ford explorer, bought for $1000 seven years ago) about $200/month (gas/insurance/maintanence) and that cost is shared by myself and my girlfriend. We are not rich but live comfortably as long as one of us is working full time, she works 40 hours per week and I about 30 hours per week, scheduling work hours to share a vehicle is tricky sometimes but we get by OK.
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