View Poll Results: When do you think the 2nd amendment will be repealed?

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  • next year

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  • 5

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  • 5-10

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    Re: How long will it take to repeal the 2nd amendment?

    Quote Originally Posted by shiang View Post
    Lets begin with not allowing guns to be privately owned unless there presents a need.
    There is a need. To protect oneself or one's family from harm intended by others. That is the only need that is relevant.

    You just shot down your entire argument in one fell swoop. Well done.

    Cars gets us places, Sex produces future generations. What has guns done?
    Protected countless people from rape, robbery and death, for starters. Isn't that a good enough reason or do you condone these actions?

    And once you get the 2nd repealed which one is next? The 1st Amendment?

    You are seting an extremely dangerous precendent and one that is extremely unAmerican.
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    Re: How long will it take to repeal the 2nd amendment?

    The ever playful loons like to word their posts in such a way that an impossible basic assumption is simply bypassed and we are now on step 2.

    For instance the OP gave the impression that it was a foregone conclusion that the 2nd Amendment would be repealed, Children, let's now all discuss when.

    It's NEVER going to be repealed because it's far more than a historic writing, it is in the heart of the American people! Dream on. Better yet, leave the country and stop annoying the Americans.

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    Re: How long will it take to repeal the 2nd amendment?

    I just heard the major supplier Brownells sold out of 3.5 years magazine inventory in 72 hours.

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    Re: How long will it take to repeal the 2nd amendment?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    So 90% are dedicated gun lovers here - or at least this poll..
    And I am correct, it will take another 50 years of mass murders for any change to occur.
    sad

    So we should change the law just because mass murders occur?

    We used to have duels in the street. This nation has a long history of blood being spilled. It's part of who we are.

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    Re: How long will it take to repeal the 2nd amendment?

    Quote Originally Posted by johnny_rebson View Post
    So we should change the law just because mass murders occur?

    We used to have duels in the street. This nation has a long history of blood being spilled. It's part of who we are.
    As people... not just as American's.

    ENGLAND

    The Dunblane school massacre occurred at Dunblane Primary School in the Scottish town of Dunblane on 13 March 1996. The gunman, 43-year-old Thomas Hamilton (b. 10 May 1952), entered the school armed with four handguns, shooting and killing sixteen children and one adult before committing suicide.

    The Hungerford massacre occurred in Hungerford, Berkshire, England, on 19 August 1987. The gunman, 27-year-old Michael Robert Ryan (b. 18 May 1960), armed with two semi-automatic rifles and a handgun, shot and killed sixteen people including his mother, and wounded fifteen others, then fatally shot himself.

    The Cumbria shootings was a killing spree that occurred on 2 June 2010 when a lone gunman, Derrick Bird, killed 12 people and injured 11 others before killing himself in Cumbria, England.

    FRANCE

    Three schoolchildren and a teacher were murdered in an anti-Jewish terror attack

    GERMANY

    The Winnenden school shooting occurred on the morning of 11 March 2009 at a secondary school in Winnenden, Baden-Württemberg, in southwestern Germany, followed by a shootout at a car dealership in nearby Wendlingen. The shooting spree resulted in 16 deaths, including the suicide of the perpetrator, 17-year-old Tim Kretschmer, who had graduated from the school one year earlier. Another 11 persons were injured during the incident

    Bastian Bosse, an 18-year-old male and former student had fired shots with a front loader and a sawed-off shotgun on campus, threw a molotov cocktail outside the school and lit a pipe bomb upon arrival of the police before committing suicide. The incident ended with no fatalities and 37 people injured, including 19 students (three girls and one boy of which suffered gunshot wounds), one teacher, 16 police officers (all from smoke inhalation), and the custodian who was shot in the abdomen inside the school.

    The Erfurt massacre was a school shooting that occurred on April 26, 2002, at the Johann Gutenberg Gymnasium in Erfurt, Germany. Sixteen people were killed before the perpetrator committed suicide. The victims comprised 13 school staff (12 teachers and one administrator), two students and one police officer. Only one other person was injured

    SWEDEN

    This was the first reported School shooting in Sweden and one of the earliest in Europe. Seven youngsters were wounded by 15 bullets fired by the perpetrator and one died from his wounds.

    GREECE

    The OAED Vocational College shooting was a school shooting that occurred on April 10, 2009, at the Manpower Employment Organisation of Greece (OAED) vocational college in Agios Ioannis Rentis, Athens, Greece, during which a gunman shot one student and two civilians before fatally shooting himself in a nearby park.

    FINLAND

    Two students were fatally shot by a 14-year-old student at the Raumanmeri secondary school. The shooter had claimed to be a victim of bullying

    The incident resulted in the deaths of nine people: five male students (ages 16–18) and one female adult student (age 25) the school principal, Helena Kalmi (age 61); the school nurse (age 43); and the gunman, Auvinen, himself, who was also one of the school's students. One other person suffered gunshot wounds, and eleven people were injured by shattering glass while escaping from the school building.

    The Kauhajoki school shooting occurred on September 23, 2008, at Seinäjoki University of Applied Sciences in Western Finland. The gunman, 22-year-old hospitality management student Matti Juhani Saari (May 20, 1986 - September 23, 2008) shot and fatally injured ten people with a semi-automatic pistol, before shooting himself in the head. He died a few hours later in Tampere University Hospital. One woman was injured but was in a stable condition

    DENMARK

    On Tuesday, 5 April 1994 35-year-old Flemming Nielsen of Silkeborg shot four people, two of them fatally, at Aarhus University in Denmark. Nielsen had been a student at the university since 1986. He opened fire with a sawed-off shotgun in a university cafeteria where he killed his first victim, 24-year-old Birgit Bohn Wolfsen. The remaining students in the room managed to escape. Nielsen proceeded into another cafeteria and opened fire again, killing his second victim, 27-year-old Randi Thode Kristensen. Another two people were wounded but survived

    AUSTRALIA

    The La Trobe University shooting was a shooting that took place in the Eagle Bar at La Trobe University Melbourne, Victoria, Australia on 3 August 1999 in which one man was killed and a woman was seriously injured.

    The Monash University shooting refers to a shooting in which a student shot his classmates and teacher, killing two and injuring five. It took place at Monash University in Melbourne, Victoria, Australia on 21 October 2002.

    INDIA

    The Euro International school shooting occurred on December 12, 2007 at Euro International, a private secondary school in Gurgaon, Haryana, India. The gunmen were 14-year-old Akash Yadav and 13-year-old Vikas Yadav, who were both students at the school, shot and killed a 14-year-old student

    ARGENTINA

    Four students killed and five wounded by a 15-year-old student in a town 620 miles south of Buenos Aires

    THAILAND

    The Pak Phanang school shooting was a school shooting that occurred on June 6, 2003 at the Pak Phanang school in Nakhon Si Thammarat, Thailand. The gunman, then 17-year-old Anatcha Boonkwan (a.k.a "Nung") fatally shot two and injured four of his fellow students using a semi-automatic pistol. This was apparently due to him having argued with classmate Sicharat Kumsuk, who was his actual target.

    CANADA

    The Dawson College shooting occurred on September 13, 2006, at Dawson College, a CEGEP in Westmount near downtown Montreal, Quebec. The perpetrator, Kimveer Gill, began shooting outside the de Maisonneuve Boulevard entrance to the school, and moved towards the atrium by the cafeteria on the main floor.[15][16]
    One victim died at the scene, while another 19 were injured, eight of whom were listed in critical condition with six requiring surgery

    The W. R. Myers High School shooting occurred on April 28, 1999, at W. R. Myers High School in Taber, Alberta, when a 14-year-old walked into his school and randomly shot at three students, killing Jason Lang and injuring another

    The Concordia University massacre was a school shooting on August 24, 1992, that resulted in the deaths of four people at Concordia University in Montreal, Quebec. The shooter was Dr. Valery Fabrikant, a former Associate Professor of mechanical engineering at Concordia and a colleague of the slain men

    The École Polytechnique Massacre, also known as the Montreal Massacre, occurred on December 6, 1989, at the École Polytechnique in Montreal, Quebec. Twenty-five-year-old Marc Lépine, armed with a legally obtained semi-automatic rifle and a hunting knife, shot 28 people, killing 14 (all of them women) and injuring the other 14 before killing himself

    The Brampton Centennial Secondary School massacre was a school shooting, which occurred at Brampton Centennial Secondary School in Brampton, Ontario. 16-year-old gunman Michael Slobodian shot and killed a fellow student, a teacher and injured 13 other students before turning the gun on himself and committing suicide in a school hallway. It was the first school shooting in Canada.

    The St. Pius X High School shooting was a school shooting that occurred on October 27, 1975, at St. Pius X High School in Ottawa, Ontario. Robert Poulin, an 18-year-old St. Pius student, opened fire on his classmates with a shotgun killing one and wounding five before turning the gun on himself and committing suicide. Poulin had raped and stabbed his 17-year-old friend Kim Rabot to death prior to the incident. A book entitled Rape of a Normal Mind was written about the incident

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    Re: How long will it take to repeal the 2nd amendment?

    Quote Originally Posted by Longstreet View Post
    I just heard the major supplier Brownells sold out of 3.5 years magazine inventory in 72 hours.
    AR's are flying off the shelves too. Now there are more of them out there thanks to the anti-gunner's running their mouths about their bad ideas, scaring the law abiding into getting what they can before a ban.
    Haymarket's "support" of the 2nd Amendment, a right he believes we never had.
    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    no. You cannot lose rights you do not have in the first place. There is no such thing as the right to have any weapon of your choice regardless of any other consideration. It simply does not exist.

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    Re: How long will it take to repeal the 2nd amendment?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    My estimates are about 60-80 years if the current trend continues because you know... people are willing to throw away their rights, freedoms and responsibilities for empty promises.

    Besides, it will serve no purpose. Law-biding sane people don't get guns to do murders and if when they do have guns, they don't use them to kill people. And criminals will get guns regardless of whatever gun law there is because criminals, by their very nature, don't care about the laws.
    You are right good people don't get guns for murder but that doesn't change the fact that they have put themselves at risk by having them. We need to limit that risk with sane laws that protect good people from bad outcomes simply because of gun ownership. Did you fight seatbelt laws too?

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    Re: How long will it take to repeal the 2nd amendment?

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    You are right good people don't get guns for murder but that doesn't change the fact that they have put themselves at risk by having them. We need to limit that risk with sane laws that protect good people from bad outcomes simply because of gun ownership. Did you fight seatbelt laws too?
    What risk? Aside from having a more efficient means of suicide should I decide to, what risks have I exposed myself to as a gun owner?
    Haymarket's "support" of the 2nd Amendment, a right he believes we never had.
    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    no. You cannot lose rights you do not have in the first place. There is no such thing as the right to have any weapon of your choice regardless of any other consideration. It simply does not exist.

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    Re: How long will it take to repeal the 2nd amendment?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    What risk? Aside from having a more efficient means of suicide should I decide to, what risks have I exposed myself to as a gun owner?
    Of course you don't know, you are not supposed to. It's bad for business

    Data from a US mortality follow-back survey were analyzed to determine whether having a firearm in the home increases the risk of a violent death in the home and whether risk varies by storage practice, type of gun, or number of guns in the home. Those persons with guns in the home were at greater risk than those without guns in the home of dying from a homicide in the home (adjusted odds ratio = 1.9, 95% confidence interval: 1.1, 3.4). They were also at greater risk of dying from a firearm homicide, but risk varied by age and whether the person was living with others at the time of death. The risk of dying from a suicide in the home was greater for males in homes with guns than for males without guns in the home (adjusted odds ratio = 10.4, 95% confidence interval: 5.8, 18.9). Persons with guns in the home were also more likely to have died from suicide committed with a firearm than from one committed by using a different method (adjusted odds ratio = 31.1, 95% confidence interval: 19.5, 49.6). Results show that regardless of storage practice, type of gun, or number of firearms in the home, having a gun in the home was associated with an increased risk of firearm homicide and firearm suicide in the home.
    Guns in the Home and Risk of a Violent Death in the Home: Findings from a National Study

    Having a gun in your home significantly increases your risk of death — and that of your spouse and children.

    And it doesn’t matter how the guns are stored or what type or how many guns you own.

    If you have a gun, everybody in your home is more likely than your non-gun-owning neighbors and their families to die in a gun-related accident, suicide or homicide.

    Furthermore, there is no credible evidence that having a gun in your house reduces your risk of being a victim of a crime. Nor does it reduce your risk of being injured during a home break-in.

    The health risks of owning a gun are so established and scientifically non-controvertible that the American Academy of Pediatrics issued a policy statement in 2000 recommending that pediatricians urge parents to remove all guns from their homes.
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    Re: How long will it take to repeal the 2nd amendment?

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Of course you don't know, you are not supposed to. It's bad for business
    lol @ you presuming to tell me something I don't know, then going on to produce commonly debunked tripe.

    That ONLY because the suicide rate in America is higher than the homicide rate, suicides had to be factored in else no increased risk.

    I am more likely to shoot myself than be shot by another, which has nothing to do with the inherent risks of firearms and has more to do with suicide in society.
    Haymarket's "support" of the 2nd Amendment, a right he believes we never had.
    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    no. You cannot lose rights you do not have in the first place. There is no such thing as the right to have any weapon of your choice regardless of any other consideration. It simply does not exist.

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