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    Gun Control

    I have already posted one thread in regards to the mass shootings, trying to bring together ideas on the most effective way to slow gun related violence and try to eliminate these mass shootings.

    This poll is more black and white because I am simply wondering would you be in favor of more gun control if it had the potential to reduce violence.
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    Re: Gun Control

    I don't favor more gun control, first because of the 2nd amendment, and its importance, and secondly, because I don't believe it would have any effect on lessening violence in this culture. What we have is a cultural problem, not a gun problem.
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    Re: Gun Control

    No. I don't care about the element of utility when condemning sacrificing liberty for security. Liberty is a priority.

    Now, some folks are more utilitarian, so it doesn't hurt to be able to speak their language, and it helps in this case to note that there is no such utility, no upside to restrictive gun policies, they just render law abiding citizens helpless.

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    I have already posted one thread in regards to the mass shootings, trying to bring together ideas on the most effective way to slow gun related violence and try to eliminate these mass shootings.

    This poll is more black and white because I am simply wondering would you be in favor of more gun control if it had the potential to reduce violence.
    anonymous polls are worthless

    we could infringe on other rights that would be far more effective in decreasing crime

    1) get rid of innocent until proven guilty-lots of criminals beat the rap because the state cannot prove its case BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT

    2) get rid of the fourth amendment-warrent-we don't need no stinking warrant

    3) no Miranda-if the mope confesses he's guilty

    4) no lawyers provided for the defendants. -that will make convictions easier

    5) racial profiling is permitted


    if you want to ruin the constitution, why not do stuff that will actually decrease crime

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    I have already posted one thread in regards to the mass shootings, trying to bring together ideas on the most effective way to slow gun related violence and try to eliminate these mass shootings.

    This poll is more black and white because I am simply wondering would you be in favor of more gun control if it had the potential to reduce violence.
    Illinois has, probably, the most Draconian gun laws in the nation. Still, I could easily support doing better. (I sure as hell hope we get concealed carry, so that's not what I'm talking about.)

    I just renewed my FOID card. They'll do a background check and issue a new license...I'll be good to go for ten years. Ten years! No. I think every gun someone owns should be registered. I think background checks should be done a minimum of once a year.

    If you've had a permanent restraining order placed on you? You should immediately lose your FOID. If you've been jailed for a violent offense? Immediate suspension. I could think of a whole list of things that should infringe upon your right to own and/or carry a firearm. Conviction of road rage would be another example.

    I don't think our government is going to come around collecting our guns for the hell of it and am not afraid our government is going to suddenly go bananas. If it did? Our little piddly arsenals would mean nothing anyway.
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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    I have already posted one thread in regards to the mass shootings, trying to bring together ideas on the most effective way to slow gun related violence and try to eliminate these mass shootings.

    This poll is more black and white because I am simply wondering would you be in favor of more gun control if it had the potential to reduce violence.

    First you'd have to convince me that gun control actually has the potential to reduce violence in the USA. I do not believe this is the case. There is no evidence that any existing gun control legislation has had any siginficant impact on violent crime.

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    First you'd have to convince me that gun control actually has the potential to reduce violence in the USA. I do not believe this is the case. There is no evidence that any existing gun control legislation has had any siginficant impact on violent crime.
    I pretty much agree with this. The problem isn't guns. The problem is mental illness.
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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    anonymous polls are worthless

    we could infringe on other rights that would be far more effective in decreasing crime

    1) get rid of innocent until proven guilty-lots of criminals beat the rap because the state cannot prove its case BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT

    2) get rid of the fourth amendment-warrent-we don't need no stinking warrant

    3) no Miranda-if the mope confesses he's guilty

    4) no lawyers provided for the defendants. -that will make convictions easier

    5) racial profiling is permitted


    if you want to ruin the constitution, why not do stuff that will actually decrease crime
    Heck- if we really want to get rid of the violence, we can just get rid of all the crazy people.
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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Heck- if we really want to get rid of the violence, we can just



    get rid of all the crazy people.
    good idea-starting with some of the people who want a fascist crack down on honest gun owners. there is a saying, those who do not study history end up looking like clowns of DP. such as ignoring the war on drugs and how making stuff totally illegal has only increased crime and violence

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    First you'd have to convince me that gun control actually has the potential to reduce violence in the USA. I do not believe this is the case. There is no evidence that any existing gun control legislation has had any siginficant impact on violent crime.
    I actually agree with that. I would have to see the restriction and be convinced it was reason and really likely to help.

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