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Gun Control

Would you support more restrictions on guns if they had the potential to save lives?

  • Yes

    Votes: 59 39.9%

  • No

    Votes: 74 50.0%

  • Others

    Votes: 15 10.1%
  • Total voters
    148
Harshaw said:
You really have no idea what you're talking about.

AR-15s were manufactured and sold quite legally throughout the entire term of the AWB; they simply didn't have the banned features. You don't know what the law banned and didn't ban; you don't know the criteria for banning, and continually posting a link to WaPo story doesn't change anything.
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#lowinformationvoters
 
Catawba said:
If you bought a Colt AR-15 during the ban, you bought it illegally.
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No. I did not.

Colt - and every other manufacturer similarly named - pulled off the flash supporessor, named it something else, and sold a gazillion of them.

Your claim that the previous ban wasn't long enough to significantly reduce the number of these guns out there is demonstrably unsound.

Why do you refuse to accept the truth?
 
H. Lee White said:
No. I did not.

The pulled off the flash supporessor, named it something else, and sold a gazillion of them.
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Then you didn't purchase a Colt AR15, or high capacity magazines during the ban as you originally claimed.



Your claim that the previous ban wasn't long enough to significantly reduce the number of these guns out there is demonstrably unsound.


Why do you refuse to accept the truth?
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Poppycock! All we have to do is look to other wealthy nations with gun control to see that it works.
 
I was just talking with my office manager about the big fear of "semi auto" guns today. We were discussing one of mine and one of hers and which one is more dangerous. Mine is a semi auto 22 pistol, hers is a 22 revolver. Mine has a 6 round magazine, it can be loaded with one chambered and a full magazine, which is referred to as 6+1. Hers is a 9 round revolver. Considering that each fires one round every time you pull the trigger, her rovolver has a higher capacity so it can do more damage without being reloaded. And reloading the revolver is very fast using a speed loader, every bit as fast as a magazine change in mine.

Must be that "semi auto" part that makes it so dangerous.
 
tech30528 said:
I was just talking with my office manager about the big fear of "semi auto" guns today. We were discussing one of mine and one of hers and which one is more dangerous. Mine is a semi auto 22 pistol, hers is a 22 revolver. Mine has a 6 round magazine, it can be loaded with one chambered and a full magazine, which is referred to as 6+1. Hers is a 9 round revolver. Considering that each fires one round every time you pull the trigger, her rovolver has a higher capacity so it can do more damage without being reloaded. And reloading the revolver is very fast using a speed loader, every bit as fast as a magazine change in mine.
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If that is what you guys believe, the ban will be no hardship on you!! Thanks for sharing that!
 
Catawba said:
Then you didn't purchase a Colt AR15, or high capacity magazines during the ban as you originally claimed.
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He didn't claim he bought a high-capacity magazine; you're simply lying about that.

An AR-15 called something else is still an AR-15. It's baffling that you cannot understand this, so simple and obvious a concept it is.


Poppycock! All we have to do is look to other wealthy nations with gun control to see that it works.
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And Catawba, thoroughly defeated, attempts to deflect, backpedal, and change the subject, as is his habit.
 
tech30528 said:
Dumb homeowner thinks a dog will protect him from a criminal with a gun. If you survive you can write an editorial for your local paper about how dumb the guy was who shot your dog. The irony would be exquisite.
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Unless e criminal is an idiot, he won't even stop. I think you're missing the point.
 
Harshaw said:
He didn't claim he bought a high-capacity magazine; you're simply lying about that.

An AR-15 called something else is still an AR-15. It's baffling that you cannot understand this, so simple and obvious a concept it is.
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Jeez, how many times do I have to repost this:

Catawba said:
"The 1994 ban outlawed the new manufacture and sale of specific named weapons, including the Colt AR-15, UZI and TEC-9, and high-capacity magazines and clips that held more than 10 bullets."

Old assault-weapons ban draws attention from Obama and others, but it was an imperfect law - The Washington Post
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Catawba said:
Jeez, how many times do I have to repost this:
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You can repost it ad infinitum (that means "to infinity," or more simply, post it over and over forever); it doesn't matter. Why it doesn't matter has already been explained to you multiple times, but it's beyond your grasp.
 
stonewall50 said:
But they certainly would understand the concept that "we the people" should be able to have the best option for self defense an hunting. I am also willing to bet that they would have been ok with cannons, especially for merchants who come under piracy threat.
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They were okay with it, no standing army and all, all of the cannons were in private hands. Of course, if anything happened, you had to bring your cannon out with you to help quell the threat. That's not the case today, therefore the intent of the founding fathers is no longer being followed.
 
Catawba said:
The Constitution says nothing about assault weapons and high capacity magazines. We the people banned them before, and we can again.
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exhibit one in the case against the far left anti gun extremists. the appeal to mass stupidity based on lies and emotion. the first amendment says nothing about television or the internet either. stop lying.


and again, like others you just want to harass people who don't agree with your extremist agenda.
 
Henrin said:
Why do liberals and socialists always use evolution as part of their argument? What is worse is they always use it for state control of something. What makes you think that is evolution? It would seem to me your dream is not to evolve but to become unevolved.
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Catawba's idea of evolution is everyone becoming more dependent on the government and less able to fend for themselves.
 
TurtleDude said:
Catawba's idea of evolution is everyone becoming more dependent on the government and less able to fend for themselves.
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I fend for myself just fine. Bet others do as well.
 
Catawba said:
The supply will not continue to keep up with demand forever once manufacture and sales have been banned.
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that is delusional, cops and soldiers will continue to get them and from them so will other people. millions of magazines are made in other countries-how to prove they were not made after the ban? and for example on the AR 15, the only changes were to the upper assembly which can be bought through the mail. during the ban, you couldn't have a flash hider or a bayonet lug (tell me Catawba how do those make a gun more dangerous). so you could buy a post ban gun and put a pre ban (which were still legal to sell and MAKE during the ban) on the lower and have a complete pre ban gun

the HELLER decision is going to have to be reversed for your moronic gun ban to stand and that will really help the dems in the next elections

as was proven in 1994, maybe more weak minded fools support the gun bans but when it comes election time, we gun owners vote for our rights. that's why your cowardly turd of a president was so quiet about gun issues until the election was over.
 
Catawba said:
If that is what you guys believe, the ban will be no hardship on you!! Thanks for sharing that!
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Won't reduce gun deaths one bit and it won't get rid of any of the hundreds of millions of guns already out there, but hey, you idiots will feel better. Did you see where following Obama's campaign speech that Brownell's sold 3 1/2 years worth of high capacity magazines in 36 hours? Or that more first time gun owners purchased firearms in the past week than in the past two years?

I tell you, you low information voters and your messiah have a funny way of counting success. :lol: There are far more gun owners now than there were before Obama decided to come to the rescue.
 
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Catawba said:
If you bought a Colt AR-15 during the ban, you bought it illegally.
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what idiocy, it has been called a COLT SPORTER for years
 
Jerry said:
There is no "the" Colt ar15.

Colt has always made more than one ar-15.
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do you really think he understands that? I have several different AR 15 TYPE colts

I have a HBAR match among others

the entire goal of these anti gun extremists is to punish gun owners with silly restrictions designed to harass us for not being socialists
 
TurtleDude said:
exhibit one in the case against the far left anti gun extremists. the appeal to mass stupidity based on lies and emotion. the first amendment says nothing about television or the internet either. stop lying.

and again, like others you just want to harass people who don't agree with your extremist agenda.
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You have not learned yet the process for enacting new laws, have you? What is the hardship you whine about so? You have maintained for years that there are only cosmetic differences in the guns and that high capacity mags are of no advantage. You have zero credibility now to claim hardship.
 
Catawba said:
Then you didn't purchase a Colt AR15, or high capacity magazines during the ban as you originally claimed.





Poppycock! All we have to do is look to other wealthy nations with gun control to see that it works.
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why do you continue to post LIEs, I bought tons of normal capacity (15-30) magazines during the ban. they were made before the ban LE Agencies were induced to trade in their pre ban magazines that dealers could sell to the public by offering those LE agencies brand new (often three new ones for two old ones) which many did.

after the ban I bought tons of discounted glock and Beretta magazines that say FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT USE ONLY.

What people like you want is for people to be jailed for merely owning an "illegal magazine"

that is what you want. You don't care about stopping crime, you want the government to jail or even kill conservative gun owners
 
Catawba said:
You have not learned yet the process for enacting new laws, have you? What is the hardship you whine about so? You have maintained for years that there are only cosmetic differences in the guns and that high capacity mags are of no advantage. You have zero credibility now to claim hardship.
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LOL

I think if you get the war you want hardship is going to be a term you might rue.

You continue to lie constantly. tell us makes a gun more dangerous by having a bayonet lug

as to folding stocks, its easy to change a fixed one out

why should that be illegal

why do you lefties love silly restrictions that have no use against criminals?
 
Boo Radley said:
I fend for myself just fine. Bet others do as well.
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the average dem voter is becoming more and more compliant and dependent-more pawns for you would be leaders to manipulate
 
TurtleDude said:
what idiocy, it has been called a COLT SPORTER for years
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Glad to hear the ban of the AR15 and high capacity mags were not a hardship for you!
 
Catawba said:
Glad to hear the ban of the AR15 and high capacity mags were not a hardship for you!
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your lies are getting stupid

what we do know is your moronic gun control schemes are no hardship to people who are already banned from owning any gun
 
TurtleDude said:
the average dem voter is becoming more and more compliant and dependent-more pawns for you would be leaders to manipulate
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That's nonsense and just a way to avoid talking the issue. There's no need for this kind of silliness.
 
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