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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    "High-capacity ammunition magazines are the common thread that runs through most mass shootings: giving attackers the ability to fire numerous bullets without reloading. Last week's attack in Arizona joins a long list of mass shootings made possible by the easy availability of high-capacity ammunition magazines: Columbine, Virginia Tech, Luby's, Stockton, and all too many others.

    Earlier this week, Representative Carolyn McCarthy (D-NY) and Senator Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ) announced plans to introduce federal legislation to ban high-capacity ammunition magazines. A similar ban on high-capacity ammunition magazines was in place for 10 years as part of the now-expired federal assault weapons ban.

    Here are just 10 of the U.S. mass shootings that involved high-capacity ammunition magazines."

    Josh Sugarmann: 10 U.S. Mass Shootings Involving High-Capacity Ammunition Magazines (Slide Show)
    Swapping magazines is trivial as long as no one is shooting at you. In the last twenty hears how many mass killings have there been? 60 or so? And all of them were in gun free zones. one-sixth of those involved large magazines.

    The antidote? Put people in a position to return fire.

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I do,that is what the second amendment says. it says I have the right to the same weapons as the military infantryman.
    Where is the documentation of the court case that ruled you have the right to carry the same weapons as a cop? Surely an "attorney" would know that only the Court has the authority to decide on Constitutional questions.
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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I am leaving for the night catawba but why don't you tell us what guns are protected by the second amendment.
    The guns the courts say you are allowed.
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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Swapping magazines is trivial as long as no one is shooting at you. In the last twenty hears how many mass killings have there been? 60 or so? And all of them were in gun free zones. one-sixth of those involved large magazines.
    I call bull****! Let's see your numbers that back that up?
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    Re: Gun Control

    Of course as any sane person would.
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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I can't justify the value of a semi-automatic for personal self defense with so many innocent people killed in this country with semi-automatic weapons with high capacity mags. And its looking like more and more people are feeling that way too.
    Do you even have a clue what “semi-automatic” means in this context?
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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    Do you even have a clue what “semi-automatic” means in this context?
    Yes, it means you can shoot as fast as you can pull the trigger, and they usually accept high capacity mags.
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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Yes, it means you can shoot as fast as you can pull the trigger, and they usually accept high capacity mags.
    Magazine size has absolutely nothing to do with being semi automatic. A bolt action rifle can have a 30 round magazine as can a shotgun etc.
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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    The Constitution says nothing about assault weapons and high capacity magazines. We the people banned them before, and we can again.
    The Constitution also doesn't say anything about radio, television, or the Internet. Yet the First Amendment clearly applies to these exactly as it does to standing on a soapbox or publishing a newspaper.
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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I think our society is probably a couple hundred years of evolution behind the UK in banning all guns.
    That's exactly backward. The UK has not caught up, in terms of freedom, to where the United States was two centuries ago. We are at least those two centuries ahead of the UK, and likely more.

    What you are advocating is that our society go BACKWARD, regressing to be more like the UK. There is a very, very good reason why our ancestors rebelled against Britain. There's a very good reason why we kicked their asses out of our country two centuries ago, and then kicked their asses again several decades later, when they again tried to tell us how to run our country. And those reasons remain every bit as valid today, as they were two centuries ago.

    (Just as I am writing this, I have realized that it is that second war, that is now two centuries ago, to the year. All my life, I've been conditioned to think of our original revolution as having been two centuries ago; but the point where that was accurately true was most of my life ago.)

    If you truly believe the UK is better, then by all means, feel free to emigrate there. America will be better off left to us who believe in the principles on which it was founded, rather than on the principles against which we rebelled in order to found it.
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