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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    I have already posted one thread in regards to the mass shootings, trying to bring together ideas on the most effective way to slow gun related violence and try to eliminate these mass shootings.

    This poll is more black and white because I am simply wondering would you be in favor of more gun control if it had the potential to reduce violence.
    Those who wail and scream and cry for more gun control do so in spite of common sense (which obviously eludes them due to the passionate nature of the current school shootings).

    Common sense tells us that bad guys are ALWAYS going to try to act out their own personal demons by inficting violence on innocent people. They will use the most deadly implement they can find. Guns will ALWAYS be found by bad guys even if guns were completely prohibited by law.

    Most mass shooters killed themselves (and stopped killing innocent victims) when confronted by armed good guys.

    Armed guards or trained school personnel with guns ARE the answer to reducing school shootings.

    Period.

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I'm starting to believe that because I know he isn't stupid, and just look at what happened when they tried to ban alcohol. These types of restrictions and bans only benefit street gangs, criminals and murderers. Then the criminal element would be WELL aware that the majority of the law-abiding public would be unarmed and defenseless, and most criminals take advantage of opportunity.
    Again, there s no proposed ban on all weapons. None. Nor would I support that.

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Bans, restrictions, limitations. It doesn't matter. It won't stop BAD people from getting guns. Only GOOD people won't break the law. Criminals are criminals because they break laws. Therefore, your proposal of more laws and restrictions are useless in the bigger scheme of things. You are looking at this situation much too simplistically.
    It does matter. There is a difference. Fewer stupid people break such laws because they can't figure it out , and e tally don't usually work hat way, so there will likely be a limiting factor.

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    as someone who spent years as a prosecuting attorney I reject that idiocy as not based on our laws many crimes do not result in gain. vandalism for example.
    There is gain in vandalism, one of excitement and expression, even if it is just anger. But when you kill children and yourself, with no effort to "get away with it," there is something beyond criminal.

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    It does matter. There is a difference. Fewer stupid people break such laws because they can't figure it out , and e tally don't usually work hat way, so there will likely be a limiting factor.
    I would think it would work the opposite way. More stupid people break laws because they don't know any better or because they just don't care.

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    90% of the most active anti gun posters on this board are motivated by a desire to hassle, harass or actually oppress people who don't buy into their far left agenda
    And those 'statistical figures' are backed up by.............. by ............. by what exactly?
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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I would think it would work the opposite way. More stupid people break laws because they don't know any better or because they just don't care.
    They break stupid laws. Not black market laws here stupidity might get hem killed.

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Bans, restrictions, limitations. It doesn't matter. It won't stop BAD people from getting guns. Only GOOD people won't break the law. Criminals are criminals because they break laws. Therefore, your proposal of more laws and restrictions are useless in the bigger scheme of things. You are looking at this situation much too simplistically.
    I think you are making a mistake, you think he actually wants to stop accidents, crimes or "the mentally ill" from hurting people

    his goal is to harass people he looks down up as benighted because they think having guns for self defense is proper

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    There is gain in vandalism, one of excitement and expression, even if it is just anger. But when you kill children and yourself, with no effort to "get away with it," there is something beyond criminal.
    That is true, and I still don't understand how you think restrictions would solve that issue. If you don't care about life, then you certainly are not going to let some laws stop you. I don't see any logic here at all. It seems more like a knee-jerk reaction to the latest tragedy than something you've actually thought about and considered carefully.

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    And those 'statistical figures' are backed up by.............. by ............. by what exactly?
    I merely read their posts, its obvious. especially when they continue to make blatant mistakes about the subject matter or make idiotic claims such as "automatic weapons" etc

    I find it amazing that almost every person who wants to restrict OUR rights labels themselves as "progressive" very liberal or has demonstrated that they are one or the other.

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