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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Yeah but I think stupid people will find many other ways to hurt and even kill themselves without a gun. Don't you?

    Why do people keep bringing suicide into this, especially liberals? On just about every suicide thread, they are ALL for allowing people to commit suicide. Does it matter what tool they use to do it? You should just leave suicide out of it. Those people want to die and will find another way.
    can you fathom what suicide has to do with wanting to restrict guns from having 30 shot magazines or flash hiders> or what accidental discharges has to do with such weapons?

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I'm ok with it. Not a big issue, but I'm ok with it. Can you follow that answer?

    And it has not one thing to do with dependency for anyone.
    So disarming people is not causing them to be dependent on the state? Sure...

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Yes, but now I am asking you a question.

    What do you mean criminals don't bother you? Those are the ones who should bother you the most because that is where MOST gun violence happens, during home invasions, robberies, etc. School shootings are actually pretty rare. Our 24/7 news cycle makes it look like these incidents are much more common than they actually are. A gun ban or tighter restrictions do not keep guns out of the hands of anyone but the law-abiding people. Even people with a mental illness can get guns illegally.
    Nope. Criminals have motivations and can be dealt with or avoid rather easily. I've live in Jacksonville Fla., Atlanta Ga, and in the projects at both places. Never loved a door, never got robbed, mugged or abused in anyway. Never needed a gun. However, I've seen stupid people treat a gun like a top, spin in on their finger and shoot a young girl across the room. So, from my POV, stupid people are far more dangerous.

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    So disarming people is not causing them to be dependent on the state? Sure...
    No me is disarmed. And frankly, I'm neither armed nor dependent. So, you're making very little sense to me.

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    can you fathom what suicide has to do with wanting to restrict guns from having 30 shot magazines or flash hiders> or what accidental discharges has to do with such weapons?
    Not at all. I'm pretty sure with most suicides, it only takes one correctly placed shot. They also include suicides in stats about gun deaths too. It is dishonest to say the least.

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    its stupid to say you support restrictions that have nothing to do with stopping the stupid from having gun accidents or suicides
    It lessens the damage they can do ( don't forget mentally ill) .

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No me is disarmed. And frankly, I'm neither armed nor dependent. So, you're making very little sense to me.
    What is the best way to defend yourself against someone that is out to do bodily harm to you? Here is a hint, it's not your fists. This is not the movies.

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Nope. Criminals have motivations and can be dealt with or avoid rather easily. I've live in Jacksonville Fla., Atlanta Ga, and in the projects at both places. Never loved a door, never got robbed, mugged or abused in anyway. Never needed a gun. However, I've seen stupid people treat a gun like a top, spin in on their finger and shoot a young girl across the room. So, from my POV, stupid people are far more dangerous.
    But the point you keep ignoring is that stupid people will still be able to get guns through the black market. Making firearms more difficult to obtain or outright banning them only strengthens the black market and criminal element. Along with that comes more death and violence. The same thing with drugs, prostitution, etc., as noted in my earlier post.

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    can you fathom what suicide has to do with wanting to restrict guns from having 30 shot magazines or flash hiders> or what accidental discharges has to do with such weapons?
    Not what said. Your making a leap and not confining yourself to my actual argument. The stats were limited to who is actually being shot. Nothing more.

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    It lessens the damage they can do ( don't forget mentally ill) .

    those people are called criminals

    when the issue is 30 rounds rather than ten that is hardly accidental

    no one cranks out 30 rounds by accident


    so we are back to intentional criminal misuse

    how many accidental shootings involved more than a couple rounds

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