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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Try looking up the term per capita. We have more gun homicides per capita than do other rich countries with less guns.
    Try looking up the term homicide. The issue is about homicide. If you look at that per capita the USA is not much higher than Western European countries or Canada and Australia. Our gun rates are higher because we have more guns.
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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Self defence should not be limited by the weapon's appearence.
    If you think appearance is the only difference you cannot claim hardship by its ban. Good point Jerry!
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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Our gun rates are higher because we have more guns.
    I agree!
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    No, I don't find it compelling, as other industrialized nations don't have the same diversity and cultural differences that we have.
    What Country are you basing that claim on? Remember it is around 80% of Americans that do not own passports. Who are the 'cultured' and who are the not so cultured?

    Over 80% of gun-related violence is committed with illegally owned/obtained weapons. It's not the legal gun owner who is causing the problem
    With having around 300 million legally owned guns in America, do you seriously think your criminal fraternity are going to ply their trade unarmed? Most other advanced industrial nations, gun crime is generally confined to criminal-on-criminal activity (even this is few in comparison).

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    The Constitution says nothing about assault weapons and high capacity magazines. We the people banned them before, and we can again.
    Not really as the last ban had no impact on existing arms, it simply made the new ones sold look a bit different. Like banning "big" (over 16 oz.) soda pop servings, one can simply tape two 10-round magazines together and quickly flip them, or get (or make) "black market" magazines. Those willing to commit violent crimes with guns are likely none too worried about obeying some new "tool" laws.
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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by gunner View Post

    What Country are you basing that claim on? Remember it is around 80% of Americans that do not own passports. Who are the 'cultured' and who are the not so cultured?



    With having around 300 million legally owned guns in America, do you seriously think your criminal fraternity are going to ply their trade unarmed? Most other advanced industrial nations, gun crime is generally confined to criminal-on-criminal activity (even this is few in comparison).

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    What I find ballsy is someone from Canada where these guns and magazines are illegal trying to convince Americans that they shouldn't also be illegal here.
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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I agree!
    Then you agree that guns are not the issue and that humans and their desire to kill is... good to know.

    What I find ballsy is someone from Canada where these guns and magazines are illegal trying to convince Americans that they shouldn't also be illegal here.
    Isn't he from England?
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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Not really as the last ban had no impact on existing arms, it simply made the new ones sold look a bit different. Like banning "big" (over 16 oz.) soda pop servings, one can simply tape two 10-round magazines together and quickly flip them, or get (or make) "black market" magazines. Those willing to commit violent crimes with guns are likely none too worried about obeying some new "tool" laws.
    The previous ban wasn't long enough to significantly reduce the number of these guns out there, and this time other measures are also being proposed, like finally closing the private sales loophole that allows guns to be purchased without a background check and waiting period.

    Glad to hear thought that this ban will be no hardship for fellows like you who believe there is no advantage in assault weapons and high capacity mags!
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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Then you agree that guns are not the issue and that humans and their desire to kill is... good to know.
    I do not agree, as no other rich nation has as many homicides as the US does with guns.



    Isn't he from England?
    Lizzie says she lives in Canada.
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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I do not agree, as no other rich nation has as many homicides as the US does with guns.





    Lizzie says she lives in Canada.
    Word smith much? England has more crumpets and scones therefore their obesity is greater when it comes to scone and crumpet consumption.
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