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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    5 cases against 62 does not make A case, and those five only met one of the criteria used in the Mother Earth study.

    "There is no evidence indicating that arming Americans further will help prevent mass shootings or reduce the carnage, says Dr. Stephen Hargarten, a leading expert on emergency medicine and gun violence at the Medical College of Wisconsin. To the contrary, there appears to be a relationship between the proliferation of firearms and a rise in mass shootings: By our count, there have been two per year on average since 1982. Yet 25 of the 62 cases we examined have occurred since 2006. This year alone there have already been seven mass shootings—and a record number of casualties, with more than 140 people injured and killed.
    The point was that the likelihood of *mass* killings is mitigated by an armed citizen taking action.

    As for the quoted author's premise, he is assuming that larger numbers of guns have a causal correlation to rising mass shootings, and there is no evidence of that. Correlation does not equal causation.
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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    If its easy as going to a walmart to purchase a weapon.. Then i think it kinda does...
    Why shouldn't it be easy to purchase a tool? Should I have to wait two weeks to buy a shovel or an axe? If my need to defend myself occurs this weekend why should I be compelled to be assaulted or perhaps murdered for some idiotic waiting period?

    We have a right to self defense that is independent of the state. The state has no business making it impossible for me to defend myself during a waiting period nor does it have the moral right to make it very difficult for me to do so.

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Uhhhh no i dont... Why do you always bring up this petty argument back up?
    Which "petty" argument? Do you mean where I recognize that like most tyrants you want to be unencumbered while wanting restrictions on the rest of us?

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    More Guns, More Mass Shootings—Coincidence?
    "America now has 300 million firearms, a barrage of NRA-backed gun laws—and record casualties from mass killers."

    "In the wake of the slaughters this summer at a Colorado movie theater and a Sikh temple in Wisconsin, we set out to track mass shootings in the United States over the last 30 years. We identified and analyzed 62 of them, and one striking pattern in the data is this: In not a single case was the killing stopped by a civilian using a gun. Moreover, we found that the rate of mass shootings has increased in recent years—at a time when America has been flooded with millions of additional firearms and a barrage of new laws has made it easier than ever to carry them in public. And in other recent rampages in which armed civilians attempted to intervene, they not only failed to stop the shooter but also were gravely wounded or killed."

    More Guns, More Mass Shootings
    Hey Cat? Did that left-leaning article identify how many mass murder spots were designated gun free zones? Did they identify the culpable leftist politicians who pushed through such murderous-enabling legislation? Shouldn't we be seeking our revenge on the politicians who artificially created killing zones for the monsters who walk among us?

    Should we began to compile an enemies list with the name and current address of every politician who voted for the killing zones?
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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Sure they were you really know how Obama thinks deep down inside right?
    That was the point behind Fast and Furious. The Obama regime gave weapons to drug gangs in the hopes that they could use the emotional tug of hundreds of Mexican murders to push through more gun bans.

    Biden's first statements in January should be how the Obama administration is going to appoint a special prosecutor to investigate Holder and Obama for their role in providing deadly weapons to Mexican gangs. After the prosecutions are completed then let's talk about disarming other dangerous politicians. Leave the citizens alone.

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    When one quits the game, one does not return periodically to ring the bell reminding the world that they are no longer here.
    Right. So stop coming.

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Try looking up the term per capita. We have more gun homicides per capita than do other rich countries with less guns.
    Wow, those are stunning statistics.....oh, wait.....those comments are unsubstantiated opinions with no substance.
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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    I don't favor more gun control, first because of the 2nd amendment, and its importance, and secondly, because I don't believe it would have any effect on lessening violence in this culture. What we have is a cultural problem, not a gun problem.
    True, we do have cultural problems and with this in mind, we must have more gun control...It is so obvious to me anyway...
    Now, if we did not have cultural probs, and we had no mass murders, then, of course, we would not have to work on the guns..
    I suspect that we have people who would work on cultural probs...
    But, how ?????

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    Wow, those are stunning statistics.....oh, wait.....those comments are unsubstantiated opinions with no substance.
    Even if true, we have far too many homocides.
    And with this situation we must take action....
    The conservatives, true to form, wish to do nothing, other than making things worse by arming teachers....what next....everybody ???

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    Even if true, we have far too many homocides.
    And with this situation we must take action....
    The conservatives, true to form, wish to do nothing, other than making things worse by arming teachers....what next....everybody ???
    People like you and the politicians can stop preaching about gun control until after our troops are back home and the drone wars are ended.
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