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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I pretty much agree with this. The problem isn't guns. The problem is mental illness.
    I prefer to call it what it is. Some people are evil. Calling them sick implies then can be healed.

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Yes. I respect the right to own guns, and i own several but i do believe our control needs to be a little bit more strict.
    Feel free to turn yours in. That would be the right amount of strictness, don't you agree?

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    I prefer to call it what it is. Some people are evil. Calling them sick implies then can be healed.
    Not all illnesses can be cured. That's true physically and mentally.

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by OhIsee.Then View Post
    Again: Requiring gun owners to be members (in good standing) of militias, e.g. State Militias, should be necessary.
    We are all already members of militias. It is automatic.

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    We are all already members of militias. It is automatic.
    I don't this qualifies as a well regulated militia:

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    Wow. This link is interesting.

    “For all the attention given to America’s culture of guns, ownership of firearms is at or near all-time lows,” writes political scientist Patrick Egan. The decline is most evident on the General Social Survey, though it also shows up on polling from Gallup, as you can see on this graph:

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    LOL. "MisterVeritis, How many weapons do you own?"

    None Sir. Absolutely none. I don't have any rifles. I don't have any pistols, I don't have any shotguns. I don't own any bullets.

    Why would anyone tell a pollster whether or not they have guns? I would not tell them over the phone nor in a door-to-door "interview."

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I don't this qualifies as a well regulated militia:

    So you want to back to what it was like prior to 1903? Cool, I am for that. We haven't had a murder rate that low since that damned militia law was passed.
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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I pretty much agree with this. The problem isn't guns. The problem is mental illness.
    Not only mental illness, we're seeing a frightening link between violent outbreaks of this sort and anti-depression and similar medicines. When we drug the crap out of our kids, this is what happens.
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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I don't this qualifies as a well regulated militia:
    Well regulated just means we can hit what we are aiming at.

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    Actually the Supreme Court has already ruled the 2nd amendment is a personal or individual right just like the many other amendments. It does not require one to be in a militia.
    Actually, the original intent of the 2nd amendment was not for personal rights. It was written before the advent of a standing army, when every able-bodied man (okay, let's be honest, every able-bodied white land-owning man) was expected to maintain a firearm and come forward in times of crisis to protect their homes, towns and nation. Every man was, by definition, part of the militia and had to provide their own weapons. That was the purpose of the 2nd amendment. However, times change and today, we have a standing military and an active police force, two things not forseen by the founding fathers. The modern-day Supreme Court's sole job is to interpret the Constitution in light of modern events, yet the farther we get from the days of the founding fathers, the less impact the founding documents can have on modern life because they just had no clue about the modern world. Given a modern army and police force, it's unlikely that the founding fathers would have taken the positions they did with the 2nd amendment.

    I think we can make some good, logical reasons for personal gun ownership, but this mindless clinging to the 2nd amendment really is pretty pathetic.
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