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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    Very personal. I just had the grandkids up for the weekend. Also had a phone call from an old friend (who, I might add makes Rush Limbaugh look like a liberal,) that just had her son and his little friend find her pistol in her drawer. They were playing when the gun went off and now his little friend has permanent brain damage. But, thank God, the little boy lived. But they are both scarred for life.

    Yeah, it's a personal kinda thang. It just doesn't add up anymore at this particular point and time in my life.

    But that's just me. I've done crazier things. LOL!
    That sucks. I could never keep a weapon unsecure with a child around. What a tragic oversight. I can understand where you are comming from. My dad got rid of his 357 our of fear and the cop that came to collect it said it was one of the noblest things hes ever seen.

    I always keep a lock through my barrel and hide my key just because i know kids can be curious and perhaps I would forget to secure it if I didnt keep it this way ALL the time.
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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    That sucks. I could never keep a weapon unsecure with a child around. What a tragic oversight. I can understand where you are comming from. My dad got rid of his 357 our of fear and the cop that came to collect it said it was one of the noblest things hes ever seen.

    I always keep a lock through my barrel and hide my key just because i know kids can be curious and perhaps I would forget to secure it if I didnt keep it this way ALL the time.
    Yes, it was very stupid on her part, I agree. I'm sure the little boys parents will be suing her for all shes got too. I would.

    How long would it take you to get your key and unlock your gun if a scumbag was busting into your bedroom at 2:30 in the morning?

    My Roscoe is locked and loaded and ready to shoot. I need about 4 seconds to wake up, pull it from the nightstand drawer and pull the trigger. And I think that's still cutting it pretty close. When the grandkids are in town, it goes into the safe.

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    Very personal. I just had the grandkids up for the weekend. Also had a phone call from an old friend (who, I might add makes Rush Limbaugh look like a liberal,) that just had her son and his little friend find her pistol in her drawer. They were playing when the gun went off and now his little friend has permanent brain damage. But, thank God, the little boy lived. But they are both scarred for life.

    Yeah, it's a personal kinda thang. It just doesn't add up anymore at this particular point and time in my life.

    But that's just me. I've done crazier things. LOL!
    Wow, damn, proper storage is defiantly a middle ground for the pro-control folks. IMO keep your gun on your person or in a rated safe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    Yes, it was very stupid on her part, I agree. I'm sure the little boys parents will be suing her for all shes got too. I would.

    How long would it take you to get your key and unlock your gun if a scumbag was busting into your bedroom at 2:30 in the morning?

    My Roscoe is locked and loaded and ready to shoot. I need about 4 seconds to wake up, pull it from the nightstand drawer and pull the trigger. And I think that's still cutting it pretty close. When the grandkids are in town, it goes into the safe.
    At least a minute probably. :S But I still rather not leave it unsecured.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    At least a minute probably. :S But I still rather not leave it unsecured.
    So, in other words, your gun is not meant for protection?

    We can both agree that, in the split second moment you might ever need to protect yourself with a gun, 60 seconds is about 56 seconds to long. Study long, study wrong.

    Is it for recreation? Do you plan to use it someday to go after someone? Help me to understand it's purpose and value to you.

    PS... Ironically, the little boy that shot his friend with his momma's gun, I mentioned earlier was named Chris also.

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    So, in other words, your gun is not meant for protection?

    We can both agree that, in the split second moment you might ever need to protect yourself with a gun, 60 seconds is about 56 seconds to long. Study long, study wrong.

    Is it for recreation? Do you plan to use it someday to go after someone? Help me to understand it's purpose and value to you.

    PS... Ironically, the little boy that shot his friend with his momma's gun, I mentioned earlier was named Chris also.
    I realize this is something close to you by people you know, and I don't want to step on any toes while expressing an opinion on gun storage. It's not my intent to persecute the gun's owner, I'm sure the situation has been dealt with.

    My only opinion is that when a gun is loaded, it should either be on it's owner's person or locked, such as a bed-side vault. If a friend were asking me if he should keep his loaded gun in a sock drawer I would passionately advise against it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I realize this is something close to you by people you know, and I don't want to step on any toes while expressing an opinion on gun storage. It's not my intent to persecute the gun's owner, I'm sure the situation has been dealt with.

    My only opinion is that when a gun is loaded, it should either be on it's owner's person or locked, such as a bed-side vault. If a friend were asking me if he should keep his loaded gun in a sock drawer I would passionately advise against it.
    As would I under different circumstances. But it's just me and the ol' ball and chain around here anymore. The ONLY reason I keep ol' Roscoe around is to have him at the ready when and if I ever need him. Being locked in a safe or having gun locks on the trigger would do me no good in the minute, nay seconds, of need.

    When we have company over, especially if children are involved, he usually goes into the safe until I get ready to go to bed.

    Roscoe only sits in the drawer while I am either sleeping or watching television in my bedroom. Otherwise, I don't leave home without him. We've kinda bonded that way.

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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    As would I under different circumstances. But it's just me and the ol' ball and chain around here anymore. The ONLY reason I keep ol' Roscoe around is to have him at the ready when and if I ever need him. Being locked in a safe or having gun locks on the trigger would do me no good in the minute, nay seconds, of need.

    When we have company over, especially if children are involved, he usually goes into the safe until I get ready to go to bed.

    Roscoe only sits in the drawer while I am either sleeping or watching television in my bedroom. Otherwise, I don't leave home without him. We've kinda bonded that way.
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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    Me and the wife discussed it last night. Now, everyone here KNOWS I love my guns. Since I got my first Daisy Model 28 pump BB gun I have love to shoot cans (and when mama wasn't looking, maybe a sparrow or two.) That developed in to enjoyment of shooting trap. I killed my first deer before I was 14.

    But I have been thinking pretty hard about it and I (we) have reached our decision.

    I am going to keep my Browning .22, my Ithica 12 ga., and my Remington .3006. And Ol' Roscoe gets to stay in my nightstand.

    But I have decided to destroy my Chinese SKS and my Panther A3 classic. But what REALLY is bringing me down is that I have also decided to destroy my .30 cal M1 carbine my father gave me before he passed away. It is a 1943 issue with General Motors stamped into the barrel. It is truly a collectable.

    I have decided against selling them. That hurts too. No, we are going to destroy them.

    I am not worried about what I would do with them but more worried that some evil, punk, thief-in-the-night will come take them, (as has been done before,) and do harm to one of your children. Or one of my grandchildren.

    I am not saying anyone else should do this. But it's a free country and I am free to destroy them if I want to. And I do.

    You guys have no clue how much I hate doing this. Especially with the carbine. I love these guns. But my folly is not worth your pain.

    I will still hunt and shoot trap though.

    This is gonna hurt.


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    Re: Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    Me and the wife discussed it last night. Now, everyone here KNOWS I love my guns. Since I got my first Daisy Model 28 pump BB gun I have love to shoot cans (and when mama wasn't looking, maybe a sparrow or two.) That developed in to enjoyment of shooting trap. I killed my first deer before I was 14.

    But I have been thinking pretty hard about it and I (we) have reached our decision.

    I am going to keep my Browning .22, my Ithica 12 ga., and my Remington .3006. And Ol' Roscoe gets to stay in my nightstand.

    But I have decided to destroy my Chinese SKS and my Panther A3 classic. But what REALLY is bringing me down is that I have also decided to destroy my .30 cal M1 carbine my father gave me before he passed away. It is a 1943 issue with General Motors stamped into the barrel. It is truly a collectable.

    I have decided against selling them. That hurts too. No, we are going to destroy them.

    I am not worried about what I would do with them but more worried that some evil, punk, thief-in-the-night will come take them, (as has been done before,) and do harm to one of your children. Or one of my grandchildren.

    I am not saying anyone else should do this. But it's a free country and I am free to destroy them if I want to. And I do.

    You guys have no clue how much I hate doing this. Especially with the carbine. I love these guns. But my folly is not worth your pain.

    I will still hunt and shoot trap though.

    This is gonna hurt.
    You won't be alone with those sentiments. It really does seem there is a ground swirl (from prominent NRA members) for more regulation,


    "You'd be hard-pressed to find politician with a better record on supporting the right to bear arms than Sen. Joe Manchin. He's an avid hunter, self described 'proud outdoorsman,' and a longtime member of the National Rifle Association.

    But with Newtown, Connecticut beginning their funerals for 20 dead children murdered in their classrooms Friday by gunman Adam Lanza - not to mention seven more adults - Manchin believes that stricter gun control laws are not only reasonable but absolutely necessary.

    'This is bigger than just about guns,' Manchin said. 'It's about how we treat people with mental illness, how we intervene, how we get them the care they need, how we protect our schools. It's just so sad."

    US gun control: NRA member Senator comes out in favor of MORE regulation as nation gears up for tough debate | Mail Online

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